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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Todd Ireland Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 July 2008 at 9:04pm
Sorry, guys. I had a mental lapse on this one... I completely forgot that a couple years ago I was able to edit the song as it appears on the Train Kept a Rollin' various artist 2-CD set to match the 45, just like Aaron did. As Aaron stated earlier in the thread, the correct 45 mix is on that disc set, but edited incorrectly. I seem to recall the database had it mistakenly listed as being the 45 version at one time, but I could be wrong.

OK, I can rest easy again over selling that first pressing of the Kansas Best of CD! ;-)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote edtop40 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 April 2010 at 9:30am
aaron.....you had made the proper edit for me years ago......to my ears the cd edit you made sounds like the vinyl 45 version to my ears....can you please just confirm this....also.....what are the one or two obvious points of the remix versus lp version that you'll know if you have the correct version....also pat can you add the 45 run time data to the db....

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian W. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 April 2010 at 9:44am
Originally posted by Todd Ireland Todd Ireland wrote:

I had a mental lapse on this one... I completely forgot

Hey, I come across old posts here ALL THE TIME that I don't even remember writing. I'll say, "Hmm, I didn't know that," then look at who posted it, and it was ME!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote edtop40 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 April 2010 at 10:18am
i know what your talking about....it's called old age!!!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote edtop40 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 April 2010 at 10:57am
okay...upon further review.....the way you can tell the remix from the non-remix is the vinyl 45 has screeching guitars at the 0:30 and 0:33 point of the song.....the version that aaron re-created is the proper remixed 45 version.....i have another cd which doesn't have the screeching guitars that i used as my point of reference....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pat Downey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 May 2010 at 8:33pm
Mike Burke sent me an email last week suggesting that the correct 45 version of Carry On Wayward Son appears on a 2009 cd release titled OCC Rocks. Sure enough when I ordered this cd it does appear to have the correct 45 version with the screaming guitars at :30 and :33.   
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aaronk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 May 2010 at 8:02am
Nice find!
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Usually I don't post for findings strictly related to sound quality, but this is an exception.

Of the handful of CDs I have the song on, one that towers above the others in sound quality is Sandstone's Reelin' In The Years Vol. 5 (1991). Very nice dynamic range, realistic soundstage, good EQ. (Mastered by Steve Hoffman, and it sounds like he got great source tapes.)

Way, way below the Sandstone disc are two Time-Life discs, Sounds Of The Seventies - AM Heavy Hits (1994) and Guitar Rock - The Late '70s Take Two (1995). Both sound very similar, and both have a messed-up soundstage and some awful left/right phasing effects. It's almost as if this song were (E) - electronically reprocessed for stereo. It's really unlistenable on these two discs - push the "mono" button and listen to the warbly mess.

Even worse, if that's somehow possible, is the first pressing of The Best Of Kansas, (CBS Associated ZK 39283), which is drenched in reverb. I can't tell if it's remixed from scratch or just reverbed to death. Ugh.

The edited version on Sony's Rock: The Train Kept A Rollin' sounds very nice, on par with the Reelin' disc. It seems to be an edited version of that nice, clean mix. A question - is this the right mix and the wrong edit of the 45, or is this the wrong mix of the true 45?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sriv94 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 October 2010 at 8:12pm
Originally posted by crapfromthepast crapfromthepast wrote:

A question - is this the right mix and the wrong edit of the 45, or is this the wrong mix of the true 45?


The edit is wrong (although I believe the correct edit can be extracted from that track).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Hits Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 October 2010 at 3:50am
What I always understood is that the original
vinyl LP
version of "Carry On Wayward Son" will match
the 45.
However, and if i'm not mistaken, the version that shows up
on all of the CDs were remixed. That is why the 45 version
cannot be created from any CD with the LP version.

I took the easy way out and simply made a nice clean dub of
the 45.

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