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"Carry On Wayward Son" -- Kansas |
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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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Sorry, guys. I had a mental lapse on this one... I completely forgot that a couple years ago I was able to edit the song as it appears on the Train Kept a Rollin' various artist 2-CD set to match the 45, just like Aaron did. As Aaron stated earlier in the thread, the correct 45 mix is on that disc set, but edited incorrectly. I seem to recall the database had it mistakenly listed as being the 45 version at one time, but I could be wrong.
OK, I can rest easy again over selling that first pressing of the Kansas Best of CD! ;-) |
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edtop40 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7 |
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aaron.....you had made the proper edit for me years ago......to my ears the cd edit you made sounds like the vinyl 45 version to my ears....can you please just confirm this....also.....what are the one or two obvious points of the remix versus lp version that you'll know if you have the correct version....also pat can you add the 45 run time data to the db....
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Brian W. ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 17 |
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Hey, I come across old posts here ALL THE TIME that I don't even remember writing. I'll say, "Hmm, I didn't know that," then look at who posted it, and it was ME! |
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edtop40 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7 |
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i know what your talking about....it's called old age!!!
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edtop40 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7 |
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okay...upon further review.....the way you can tell the remix from the non-remix is the vinyl 45 has screeching guitars at the 0:30 and 0:33 point of the song.....the version that aaron re-created is the proper remixed 45 version.....i have another cd which doesn't have the screeching guitars that i used as my point of reference....
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Pat Downey ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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Mike Burke sent me an email last week suggesting that the correct 45 version of Carry On Wayward Son appears on a 2009 cd release titled OCC Rocks. Sure enough when I ordered this cd it does appear to have the correct 45 version with the screaming guitars at :30 and :33.
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 210 |
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Nice find!
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 105 |
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Usually I don't post for findings strictly related to sound quality, but this is an exception.
Of the handful of CDs I have the song on, one that towers above the others in sound quality is Sandstone's Reelin' In The Years Vol. 5 (1991). Very nice dynamic range, realistic soundstage, good EQ. (Mastered by Steve Hoffman, and it sounds like he got great source tapes.) Way, way below the Sandstone disc are two Time-Life discs, Sounds Of The Seventies - AM Heavy Hits (1994) and Guitar Rock - The Late '70s Take Two (1995). Both sound very similar, and both have a messed-up soundstage and some awful left/right phasing effects. It's almost as if this song were (E) - electronically reprocessed for stereo. It's really unlistenable on these two discs - push the "mono" button and listen to the warbly mess. Even worse, if that's somehow possible, is the first pressing of The Best Of Kansas, (CBS Associated ZK 39283), which is drenched in reverb. I can't tell if it's remixed from scratch or just reverbed to death. Ugh. The edited version on Sony's Rock: The Train Kept A Rollin' sounds very nice, on par with the Reelin' disc. It seems to be an edited version of that nice, clean mix. A question - is this the right mix and the wrong edit of the 45, or is this the wrong mix of the true 45? Edited by crapfromthepast |
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sriv94 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4 |
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The edit is wrong (although I believe the correct edit can be extracted from that track). |
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The Hits Man ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 04 February 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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What I always understood is that the original
vinyl LP version of "Carry On Wayward Son" will match the 45. However, and if i'm not mistaken, the version that shows up on all of the CDs were remixed. That is why the 45 version cannot be created from any CD with the LP version. I took the easy way out and simply made a nice clean dub of the 45. Edited by The Hits Man |
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