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eriejwg ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 41 |
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Here is a 45 playing for reference -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wo1zKGtnfE |
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eriejwg ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 41 |
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I just listened to the 45 version on the Epic
Archives which runs 4:36 according to the db, but fades earlier than the 45 I linked to in the post above. |
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 88 |
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Based on what Ron said above, it seems that the LP version and 45 version are different edits of a longer take. There are spots in the LP version where an edit is audible, so that seems plausible. Also, regarding the Billboard disc, not only does the entire song run too slow, but also the first 4-5 seconds run even slower. The song picks up speed at that point, and the pitch seems fairly constant for the remainder.
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eriejwg ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 41 |
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I didn't speed up the first few seconds of the Billboard
disc only the song itself. So what options are there for a 45 version that runs the proper length, proper pitch, and doesn't fade early? |
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eriejwg ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 41 |
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Now that you mention it, the first few seconds of the
Billboard disc sound like tape drag maybe? |
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PopArchivist ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 June 2018 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 17 |
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Based on Aaron's correct file, the song should run 4:43. |
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Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD."
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radiofan16 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 March 2016 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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And now to give everybody a headache, I'm going to make a correction. :)
The 45 can be edited from the LP, there is no mix difference but a simple out of sequence edit. The sound you hear at 4:14 on the 45 version is not, I repeat *not* a tambourin, it is simply an extra note from the Roland D50 synth that appears throughout the song. This is very obvious if you're listening with headphones, as it's right there in your left channel. After Robin sings "you" the synth plays four notes followed by a fifth note and the down beat. This does appear on the LP version, listen closely at 5:06 seconds and that extra note is right there, it also appears at 5:16. So Segment #2 can be made just take 5:02 to 5:06 and paste it. |
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 88 |
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You're right that the sound is a synth and not a tambourine, but I agree with Ron that the segment in question is unique and not found on the LP version. On the 45 version, the synth note comes noticeably early before the drum hit, and I could not find anywhere in the LP version where that occurs. Every other time that passage is played, the synth and drum are played at the same time. Also, segment 5:02 to 5:06 of the LP version has a different drum pattern/fill that does not match with 4:10 to 4:14 of the 45 version.
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9 |
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Sorry, radiofan16, but I agree with Aaron. The 4:10-4:14 segment of the 45 version is different from the 5:02-5:06 segment of the LP version.
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PopArchivist ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 June 2018 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 17 |
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You are absolutely correct in your assessment sir. |
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