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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 190 |
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I bought the Essential hoping for a nice sounding mono copy of "The Wanderer" and some of his other hits. Sounds to me like it might be a vinyl dub. It's very harsh sounding. Anyone else notice that?
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Yah Shure ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 11 December 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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The stereo Warners 45 mentioned upthread wasn't the only "The Wanderer" single to tie into The Wanderers back in 1979. That July, Laurie Records issued a DJ 45 of the mono mix of "The Wanderer," utilizing the single's original catalog number (Laurie 3115.)
Under the title and artist was a mention of the song having been "From the Orion Motion Picture 'The Wanderers'". This single ran (2:42) with a little tape noise at the end of the fade, but in terms of sound quality, it was far better than the mono track on the old Columbia Dion's Greatest Hits CD. |
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Hykker ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 30 October 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 27 |
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The problem with this is that in the 60s, even into the early 70s the single/mono mix often had overdubs that were done "live" during the mastering and aren't on the multis (assuming they exist). Any stereo version (or later remix) would be lacking these parts, or would have to be re-created which would be pretty difficult to get right. I'd rather have the correct mix of a song in mono than a stereo mix that doesn't sound right. Don't even get me going on 2-track "stereo". |
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Brian W. ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 17 |
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I thought that too, also about "Runaround Sue" on that same disc. On the album "Runaround Sue," the single's flipside, "Runaway Girl," is mono on the album, but it doesn't have that same harshness you hear on the mono "Runaround Sue" and "The Wanderer." It sounds nice. (The song "Runaround Sue" is stereo on the album, at least on the CD version.) |
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 190 |
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Although there's no notation in the database, I am of the opinion that "LP and 45 version" should probably be noted for the mono mix. Both the lead vocal and the percussion have a slap back (tape) echo on the mono version. The stereo mix does not have this echo, but instead it adds some reverb on the percussion. The vocal on the stereo mix is dry, for the most part, except for one line in the middle that he sings acapella.
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 190 |
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I haven't checked the other Dion singles from this time period (aside
from Runaround Sue), but my suspicion is that they also are mixed with slapback echo. If anyone has time to check, please let us know your findings. |
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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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Am I correct that Dion's Runaround Sue 1961 vinyl LP was only issued in mono? If so, the database should probably have the following general comment added underneath the song title for "The Wanderer" (just like it appears in the database for "Runaround Sue"):
(there was no vinyl stereo release of this song in 1962 so all subsequent stereo appearances are technically stereo remixes) |
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KentT ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 25 May 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Yes they are remixes, there are two remixes, the second stereo remix commissioned by Ace Records in England has the correct reverb. The mono single on Laurie still has that something special. It has punch and bass impact like no other version.
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I turn up the good and turn down the bad!
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