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It's possible the Richard Marx "Satisfied" had more than one pressing with different versions. I know there were two different cassette singles for Mariah Carey's "Someday" -- one with the LP version, and one with the 4:40 "New 7" Jackswing" mix. No indication of a difference on the sleeve -- both had exactly the same catalog number and the exact same B-side.
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edtop40:

Thanks very much for your clarifications regarding the Don Henley "Heart of the Matter" and Snap "Ooops Up!" entries. Like Pat D., I strive to be as accurate as possible with the information I post so I invite and encourage all board readers to jump in at any time and point out any errors or inaccuracies, even if they're small or minor.

By the way, it's great to be back on the board for the first time in over a month! I was very busy throughout the month of December with work, personal life, and the holidays. I now look forward to continuing to post more promo single info. In fact, I have a dozen new singles to report, so let's get right to it!...
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SNOW - GIRL I'VE BEEN HURT (EastWest PRCD 5139)
1) Pop Radio Edit - 3:28
My conclusion: DJ copies of this single run (3:28); commercial copies were all (4:01)


SOUL ASYLUM - MISERY (Columbia CSK 7080)
1) edit - 3:58
2) album - 4:23
My conclusion: DJ copies of this single run (3:58) and (4:23); commercial copies were all (4:23)


SOULDECISION featuring THRUST - FADED (MCA 25010-2)
1) Radio Version - 3:29
2) No Rap Edit - 2:49
Comments: DJ and commercial copies of this single list the artist only as "soulDecision".
My conclusion: DJ copies of this single feature a "no rap" edit which runs (2:49) and a version with rap running (3:29); commercial copies were all (3:29) and include the rap; the radio version with rap, all commercial single copies, and some album pressings contain the lyric "I'm gonna take off all your clothes", while the "no rap" radio edit and other album pressings contain the cleaner alternate lyric "I'm gonna move in nice and close"


BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN - SECRET GARDEN
Comments: When "Secret Garden" was first released in 1995, the LP version was featured on all DJ and commercial single copies. The single was pretty much a chart flop. Two years later, a disc jockey at radio station KKRZ-FM in Portland created a new version of "Secret Garden" by adding bits of dialog from the movie Jerry Maguire throughout the song. This mix was circulated to other radio stations across the country and ultimately became a big Top 40 radio success. It's not clear if this "Jerry Maguire Mix" ever became an official radio promo release, but it does appear on my Promo Only: Mainstream Radio subscription series (run time is 4:26). The "Jerry Maguire Mix" has never been made commercially available on CD.    
My conclusion: in 1995, this song was released on all DJ and commercial single copies in its LP version form but failed to crack a major Top 40 chart; a different version surfaced on Top 40 radio stations in 1997 where dialogue from the movie Jerry Maguire was interspersed throughout the song - this 1997 version is considered the true hit single version but has never appeared on a commercial compact disc release


SPICE GIRLS - GOODBYE (Virgin DPRO-13653)
1) Radio Edit - 4:12
2) Single Version - 4:44
My conclusion: DJ copies of this single run (4:12) and (4:44); commercial copies were all (4:44)


SUBWAY - THIS LIL' GAME WE PLAY (Biv Ten 374631244-2)
1) Pop Edit - 4:04
2) LP Version - 4:52
3) Radio Edit - 4:04
4) Instrumental - 4:59
Comments: The only difference between the Pop Edit and Radio Edit is the Radio Edit contains crooning vocals and spoken dialog during the :15 introduction, while the Pop Edit does not.
My conclusion: DJ copies of this single contains a "pop edit" and "radio edit" which both run (4:04), not (4:10) as listed on the label, and the commercial version which runs (4:52); commercial copies were all (4:52)


TEARS FOR FEARS - SOWING THE SEEDS OF LOVE (Fontana CDP 119)
1) Full Version - 6:47
2) U.S. Radio Edit - 4:02
Comments: The Full Version is not the same as the LP version, which runs 6:15.
My conclusion: DJ copies of this single run (4:02) and (6:47); commercial copies were all (5:42)


TEARS FOR FEARS - WOMAN IN CHAINS (Fontana CDP 163)
1) Edit - 4:42
2) Single Version - 5:27
My conclusion: DJ copies of this single run (4:42) and (5:27); commercial copies were all (5:27)


TEARS FOR FEARS - BREAK IT DOWN AGAIN (Fontana CDP 953)
1) Edit - 3:51
2) LP Version - 4:31
My conclusion: DJ copies of this single run (3:51) and (4:31); commercial copies were all (4:30)


TONY TERRY - WITH YOU (Epic ESK 4073)
1) Radio Edit #1 - 3:57
2) Radio Edit #2 - 4:13
3) Album Version - 5:04
My conclusion: DJ copies of this single run (3:57), (4:13), and (5:04); commercial copies were all (5:04)


TESLA - SIGNS (Geffen PRO-CD-4178)
1) clean version - 3:09
Comments: Every CD appearance of this song to date is the LP version.
My conclusion: DJ copies of this single run (3:09), not (3:15) as the label states; DJ and commercial single copies substitute the word "little" for the F-word at the 2:27 mark; the LP version is not censored


TQ - WESTSIDE (Clockwork/Epic ESK 41248)
1) Radio Version - 3:52
2) Instrumental - 5:07
My conclusion: DJ copies of this single contain an edit that runs (3:52); commercial copies were all (5:02)


To be continued...
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Todd, I just wanted to reply to a few of your recent posts. First, with regard to Snow "Girl I've Been Hurt", Whitburn lists the 45 version as running 3:53 and you are stating 4:01, so what gives here?

With regard to Souldecision "Faded", the Billboard chart which I have, listed the artist as Souldecision featuring Thrust but both your dj and commercial copies do not list Thrust?

Regarding an item you did not mention, Snow "Informer" --I have a dj copy that states "edit without the rap" running 3:37, so do you have either a dj or commercial single with the rap, since Whitburn lists the 45 time as (4:05)?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian W. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 January 2005 at 2:23pm
I have a DJ CD single of "Informer" (Eastwest Records America PRCD 4830-2) that has:

1. Edit (4:04)
2. Drum Mix Edit (4:07)
3. Clark's Super Radio Mix (4:12)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote edtop40 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 January 2005 at 10:25pm
attn all.........regarding whitburns' book that has the run times of all songs......please note.......many, 50% or so of the cassingles run fast.......don't know if it's a manufacturing issue or and age issue (ie: the tape gets warped with age), but many cassingles run fast.......i've personally compared every top 40 song from the 90's that was originally issued on cassingle, versus the cd counterpart and they usually run quicker, thus whitburn would show a shorter run time in his book........between all of us, i think we run a more complete and conclusive site than he does.........let's all keep up the great work........
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I don't think Whitburn times most of the singles himself, cassette or 45 -- I think he generally lists the running time that's on the label, unless someone corrects him.
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Pat:

In a recent e-mail conversation with edtop40, he told me the "Girl I've Been Hurt" cassette single contains the "edit" version, but the label states no running
time. He claims that it runs 4:01. I do not have a copy of the cassette single and I probably should've made this disclaimer in my post (like I usually do), but edtop40's track record is superb and I'll sometimes contact him and go with his information whenever I'm in doubt.

As for whether the CD and promo singles of soulDecision's "Faded" contains a mention of rapper "Thrust" on the sleeve or label, I unfortunately am unable to refer to my copies because they are at my brother's house and he's out of town. I'm pretty positive though that neither the promo or commercial CD copy explicitly mention "Thrust", but I'll be sure to confirm this when I get my singles back.

Also, thanks Brian W. for the info on Snow's "Informer" DJ promo single.
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the commercial cd single by souldecision for the song "faded" does note that the song is "featuring thrust".....
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I got my copies of "Faded" back recently and, upon closer review, they do indeed mention that the song features Thrust. I stand corrected. Thanks for the heads up, guys.

I'd say I have about two more posts worth of DJ edits to go. I'll do my best to post some info later tonight.
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