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    Posted: 12 January 2006 at 12:21pm
I used to have the cassette single for En Vogue "Hold On," but it's long gone. However, if my memory hasn't failed me, I remember a difference between the cassette single and LP versions that I have a question about.

On the cassette single version, I recall that the song was exactly the same as the LP version, with the exception of one line. On the fadeout of the cassette single version, the lyrics are:

"He'll be there for you; he'll want to f*** you all the time."

Later, I purchased the full-length CD, and these lyrics are changed to "he'll want to have you all the time," which matches the "Radio Version With Intro" from my 12" single.

Did original pressings of Born To Sing have the uncensored lyrics, and then the song was later replaced with the censored radio version?
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would you like an mp3 file of the cassingle version to compare yourself???
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Sure, Ed! Did you check out those lyrics?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote edtop40 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 January 2006 at 12:39pm
no, but i will tonite..........aaron, in the future, if you need any mp3s of 45 or cassingles, just ask, i'd love to provide them for you, since you've helped me so much with the editing process.......
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We need to look at "Hold On" in greater detail, especially with regard to the cassette single perhaps being different from the LP version. Here is what I have:

dj cd single Atlantic PRCD 3386 has two tracks. track 1 called the "radio edit" runs 4:15 not 4:30 as stated on the cd and has the "f*** you" line at 3:53. Track 2 called "edited version" runs 4:21 not 4:35 as stated and has the "f*** you" line at 3:59.

dj cd single Atlantic PRCD 3171 has three tracks. Track 1 called "radio version - with intro" runs 5:07 not 5:34 as stated and has the "f*** you" line at 4:59. Track 2 called "edited version" runs 4:21 not 4:35 as stated on the cd and has the "f*** you line" at 3:59. Track 3 called "extended version" runs 5:01 not 5:18 as stated and has the "f*** you" line at 4:39.

My "Born To Sing" cd has this song running 5:01 with the "f*** you" line at 4:39.

So what are the specifics of the commercial cassette single and where does the 3:44 version on the cd "Cosmopolitan Volume 1" Sandstone 33047 come from?

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Interesting... I'm very surprised to learn that all the tracks on the "Hold On" DJ CD singles contain the f-word. Did radio stations really air the song that way? If so, you'd think the FCC would've had something to say about it!

I would assume most stations faded the song early?
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I remember back in the day when a couple of our CDs in the air studio had a big sign taped to the front that read "FADE BEFORE (8:88)!!!" It wouldn't surprise me if stations did an early fade. It's also possible that another DJ single was released with the clean versions.

Pat, are the tracks labeled as "radio version" or "LP version" on the DJ singles you have? I'll have to check my 12" single when I get home---it might be a promo copy.
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I will just modify my post above to include the names of the dj edits.
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Here is some info on my 12" single. It IS a promo copy with the following mixes and printed (not actual) run times:

A: "Radio Version With Intro" (5:08)
   "Edit" (4:15)
   "Edit With Intro" (4:58)
B: "Extended Version" (5:18)
   "Instrumental" (3:56)
   "Dub Version" (3:56)

All versions have the censored version which says "he'll want to have you."

Although my CD copy of Born To Sing is in Michigan, I have "Hold On" dubbed from that disc onto a CD-R, and it is also the censored version. The only logical conclusion is that more than one version of the full-length CD exists. As for the promo copies, Atlantic must have goofed when they were pressing the dj cd single. Anyone have a promo copy that IS censored?
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ok, guys.....this one needs to be reviewed further....

the version from the cd "born to sing" and for that matter the version from "billboard #1 hits of the 90's" DO NOT contain the cassingle version....the cassingle version and these cd versions are the same till the break at the 3:54 mark....then the cassingle goes into a non vocal loop while the full cd version has the vocals over it......the cassingle picks up the vocal again at the 4:14 mark...my cassingle has the clean fade out "he'll want to have you all the time"........the only place i know to have the correct cassingle version is the german import cd single issued as atlantic 7567-86178.....the third track labelled as "radio version with intro" which runs 5:07 on the cd single is the same version but the cassingle version fades out to 5:03 while this cd single version runs to 5:07....hope this helps
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