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Gary ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 02 October 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I just found a promo copy of the 45 for this song that runs 4:13 both sides. Were all the commercial copies 3:49 or did some run 4:13?
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edtop40 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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my commercial 45 issued as asylum 47055 states a run time of 3:49 and indeed does run that length...i found the correct 45 version on the greatest hits cd "archive" issued on the riato label in 1997......the only difference is that the 45 fades out from the 3:15 mark to 3:49...and the fade out is tough to replicate...it's not a gradual fade but a normal fade to start then it takes about 0:20 to finish....in addition the first note on this cd and the 45 are the same.....no glitch or errors....
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 21 |
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This song rarely turns up on compilations, so I assumed
it was on an indie label. Nope, the Korgis were on Asylum here in the US. "Everybody's Got To Learn Sometime" got lost in the shuffle in the US, buried under the Linda Ronstadt, Eagles and Jackson Browne records on Asylum that commanded the label's attention in 1980. The LP version runs 4:09 on EMI UK's 2-CD Now The Millennium Series 1980 (1999), and there's a differently EQ'd digital clone on Time-Life's 2-CD Classic Soft Rock Vol. 2 Ride Like The Wind (2006). Both of these are likely source from a pre-1999 CD, but I don't know which one. The same analog transfer is used on EMI UK's 2-CD Best Of 1980-1981 (2003). All three sound good, with no clipping, good EQ, no excessive compression/limiting, and no evidence of noise reduction. The LP version on EMI Australia's 5-CD Eighties Complete Vol. 2 (1999) fades about 7 seconds more quickly than the above two. The LP version on Then Totally Oldies Vol. 7 The 80s Again replaces the first note, as noted above. Not cool! Avoid. Using the Time-Life disc as my source, the editing instructions are simple for recreating the 45 edit: Segment 1: Extends from 0:00.0 to 3:14.8 of the 45 edit and the LP version. Ends on the first snare hit after the break. Remove the 32 beats from 3:14.8 to 3:40.7 of the LP version. Segment 2: Extends from 3:14.8 to 3:46.4 (end) of the 45 edit. Extends from 3:40.7 to 4:12.3 (end) of the LP version. Your mixdown will run 3:43 without outro silence, 3:46.4 with outro silence, and a single edit at 3:14.8. Just so you know, there's a rerecorded version out there, which was done for the This World's For Everyone in 1992. The opening keyboard tones are different than the 1980 version. I think this is the version that turns up on the UK's 2-CD Sampled Vol. 1 (2000), where it runs about 3:37. |
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There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one Crap From The Past.
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jimct ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Ron, this song was always a big personal fave of mine. As such, I bought a
UK import CD: The Korgis-"The Best Of & The Rest Of", on Action Replay #CDAR 1015. Released back in 1990. Some years back, Aaron analyzed "Everybody's....", and confirmed that it features the original 1980 Elektra LP version, including the first note. Used CD copies are still available for it, at great prices, for anyone interested. |
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NightAire ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 20 February 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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"DJ copies of this 45 run (4:13)"
Does this mean that the DJ / promo version matches the LP version, or did it actually add 4 seconds? Does anybody know if it was a different mix or had different lyrics? A listener requested this and I don't remember ever hearing it... it's fantastic! I want to be sure to get the "radio" version into rotation. |
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NightAire ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 20 February 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I believe I just answered my own question.
It appears the full-length LP version was released to radio here. It ALSO appears the single edit was released to radio here. It might be worth noting the edit is listed as mono and the LP length is listed as stereo... perhaps they believe AM hit radio stations would play the edit and album rock FM stations would play the full-length version? I'd still be curious if anybody remembers hearing the edit or the LP version more. I suspect the edit ruled on hit radio because edits typically do, but I have no memory of this song. |
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eriejwg ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 41 |
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Gene, if you click on the additional images on Discogs for
the edit, you'll see there was a stereo side for the 3:49 edit. I remember playing this song in 1980 at an adult contemporary station when it came out but I don't remember if it was the edit or the full length version. |
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NightAire ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 20 February 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Great info John; thanks!
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Hykker ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 30 October 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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I just timed my promo. Listed 3:49, actual 3:46. |
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AdvprosD ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 12 June 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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This sounds like a song 10cc or the little river band might do. I'm shocked, SHOCKED! I tell you when I say I don't remember this song at all.
I was scanning an ad from Time-Life online and ran across it. Was this left out of the Midwest charts? Where was this popular? |
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