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I just found a promo copy of the 45 for this song that runs 4:13 both sides. Were all the commercial copies 3:49 or did some run 4:13?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote edtop40 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 March 2009 at 3:01pm
my commercial 45 issued as asylum 47055 states a run time of 3:49 and indeed does run that length...i found the correct 45 version on the greatest hits cd "archive" issued on the riato label in 1997......the only difference is that the 45 fades out from the 3:15 mark to 3:49...and the fade out is tough to replicate...it's not a gradual fade but a normal fade to start then it takes about 0:20 to finish....in addition the first note on this cd and the 45 are the same.....no glitch or errors....


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote crapfromthepast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 April 2014 at 2:53pm
This song rarely turns up on compilations, so I assumed
it was on an indie label. Nope, the Korgis were on
Asylum here in the US. "Everybody's Got To Learn
Sometime" got lost in the shuffle in the US, buried under
the Linda Ronstadt, Eagles and Jackson Browne records on
Asylum that commanded the label's attention in 1980.

The LP version runs 4:09 on EMI UK's 2-CD Now The
Millennium Series 1980
(1999), and there's a
differently EQ'd digital clone on Time-Life's 2-CD
Classic Soft Rock Vol. 2 Ride Like The Wind
(2006). Both of these are likely source from a pre-1999
CD, but I don't know which one. The same analog transfer
is used on EMI UK's 2-CD Best Of 1980-1981 (2003).
All three sound good, with no clipping, good EQ, no
excessive compression/limiting, and no evidence of noise
reduction.

The LP version on EMI Australia's 5-CD Eighties
Complete Vol. 2
(1999) fades about 7 seconds more
quickly than the above two.

The LP version on Then Totally Oldies Vol. 7 The 80s
Again
replaces the first note, as noted above. Not
cool! Avoid.

Using the Time-Life disc as my source, the editing
instructions are simple for recreating the 45 edit:

Segment 1:
Extends from 0:00.0 to 3:14.8 of the 45 edit and the LP
version.
Ends on the first snare hit after the break.

Remove the 32 beats from 3:14.8 to 3:40.7 of the LP
version.

Segment 2:
Extends from 3:14.8 to 3:46.4 (end) of the 45 edit.
Extends from 3:40.7 to 4:12.3 (end) of the LP version.

Your mixdown will run 3:43 without outro silence, 3:46.4
with outro silence, and a single edit at 3:14.8.

Just so you know, there's a rerecorded version out there,
which was done for the This World's For Everyone
in 1992. The opening keyboard tones are different than
the 1980 version. I think this is the version that turns
up on the UK's 2-CD Sampled Vol. 1 (2000), where
it runs about 3:37.
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Ron, this song was always a big personal fave of mine. As such, I bought a
UK import CD: The Korgis-"The Best Of & The Rest Of", on Action Replay
#CDAR 1015. Released back in 1990. Some years back, Aaron analyzed
"Everybody's....", and confirmed that it features the original 1980 Elektra LP
version, including the first note. Used CD copies are still available for it, at
great prices, for anyone interested.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NightAire Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 December 2018 at 12:14am
"DJ copies of this 45 run (4:13)"

Does this mean that the DJ / promo version matches the LP version, or did it actually add 4 seconds? Does anybody know if it was a different mix or had different lyrics?

A listener requested this and I don't remember ever hearing it... it's fantastic! I want to be sure to get the "radio" version into rotation.
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I believe I just answered my own question.

It appears the full-length LP version was released to radio here.

It ALSO appears the single edit was released to radio

here.

It might be worth noting the edit is listed as mono and the LP length is listed as stereo... perhaps they believe AM hit radio stations would play the edit and album rock FM stations would play the full-length version?

I'd still be curious if anybody remembers hearing the edit or the LP version more. I suspect the edit ruled on hit radio because edits typically do, but I have no memory of this song.
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Gene, if you click on the additional images on Discogs for
the edit, you'll see there was a stereo side for the 3:49
edit.

I remember playing this song in 1980 at an adult
contemporary station when it came out but I don't remember
if it was the edit or the full length version.
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Great info John; thanks!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hykker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 January 2019 at 3:17pm
Originally posted by Gary Gary wrote:

I just found a promo copy of the 45 for
this song that runs 4:13 both sides. Were all the
commercial copies 3:49 or did some run 4:13?


I just timed my promo. Listed 3:49, actual 3:46.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AdvprosD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 September 2022 at 9:35am
This sounds like a song 10cc or the little river band might do. I'm shocked, SHOCKED! I tell you when I say I don't remember this song at all.

I was scanning an ad from Time-Life online and ran across it. Was this left out of the Midwest charts? Where was this popular?
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