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    Posted: 27 April 2005 at 9:12am
Thanks to some assistance from Edtop40, I've learned that the 45 version of The Korgis' "Everybody's Got to Learn Sometime" runs 3:48 and has never appeared on CD. The commercial 45 edits out part of the instrumental portion toward the end of the LP version from 3:14-3:41. I believe the song's few domestic CD appearances to date are all the LP version.
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That's great info. I had no idea. I'll have to do an edit from my CD. I assume the single has the same mix, Todd? If I go to 3:14 and 3:41 on the CD versions, will it be evident where to splice without having the 45 version at my disposal? (Is it on the downbeats, for instance?) Thanks.
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EdisonLite:

Yes, it is evident where to splice. If you set your edit points as closely as possible right before the snare drum strike at the 3:14 and the 3:41 marks (you can't miss the snare drum strikes because there's nothing but synthesizers preceding them at both edit points), you should have the 45 version!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote edtop40 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2005 at 7:36pm
hey paul...after you put this post regarding the korgis song i had to go back and review the song again........i don't know which lp/cd you took the album version from BUT, the version that is on the archive series is identical to the 45 version just faded out very slowly to 3:49......i can't hear any instrumentals NOT being included.......my cd version is the same as the 45 version....
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Ed:

I compared the 45 version you e-mailed me to the 4:15 version on the Then '80s Again: TotallyOldies 7 on Varese Sarabande, which I presume is the LP version. The latter contains an additional instrumental loop toward the end of the song that is edited out of the 45. The single is definitely not an early fade of the version on this CD.

By the way, are you referring to the Korgis' Archive CD on the Rialto label? If so, this is an import disc and therefore would not be mentioned in Pat's book. Either way, I wasn't aware that CD carried the 45 version of "Everybody's Got to Learn Sometime"!
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I have the Dumb Waiters CD as an import...and the original vinyl domestic, because when I bought the CD I was shocked to discover that the song has two completely different sets of lyrics for the verses, whereas, the version I've always known repeats the same lyrics twice for both verses. Can anyone clarify what version is on the comilations you guys are mentioning? Thanks.
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Originally posted by budaniel budaniel wrote:

I have the Dumb Waiters CD as an import...and the original vinyl domestic, because when I bought the CD I was shocked to discover that the song has two completely different sets of lyrics for the verses, whereas, the version I've always known repeats the same lyrics twice for both verses. Can anyone clarify what version is on the comilations you guys are mentioning? Thanks.


Budaniel:

Unfortunately, the version of "Everybody's Got to Learn Sometime" on your Korgis' Dumb Waiters import CD is an alternate take. Why the folks who compiled that CD chose not to use the original version is completely beyond me.
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So is there anyway of getting the full length original cut on a CD? The last copy I have of Pat's book (2002) has no listing for the track on CD at all. Thanks
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Budaniel:

You can find the original full-length 4:15 version on:

Don't Look Back - Very Best of (Castle Music 81311)
Then '80s Again: Totally Oldies 7 (Varese Sarabande 066546)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote budaniel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2005 at 10:17am
thanks so much for the info...checked my choices out on amazon, and Totally oldies 7 also had another 80s song I'd written on my "to get" list literally the day before!
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