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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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The actual commercial 45 run time of Dawn's "Knock Three Times" is 2:55. (Timing info provided by Jim. The printed record label time is 2:56.) I only report this because database CD times run from 2:52 to 2:57.
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Hykker ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 30 October 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 21 |
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Were some stock copies of this single in stereo? I ask because back during the song's chart run I recall seeing an ad in Billboard that showed what looked like a commercial copy (ie-no markings designating it as a promo), but had a "stereo" notation on it. I do remember hearing a slightly different mix of the song on WRKO in Boston...the most noticeable difference being the stomping on the floor sounding different.
I know some Bell promo singles were mono/stereo by late 1970, though I don't recall if this was. |
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TomDiehl1 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 January 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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The promo for Knock Three Times was mono/stereo. The U.S. stock copy that I used to have was (E)...I would've kept it if it had played in true mono. the Philippines pressing that I still have, plays in true stereo.
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Live in stereo.
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Roscoe ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 July 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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My commercial 45 sounds like pure mono, not E.
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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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Based on the mix differences Hykker sites, I wonder if the mono CD appearances of "Knock Three Times" are considered a 45 mix, while stereo CDs are an LP mix?
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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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Checking in again... Did anyone ever verify if the 45 and LP are different mixes?
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Bill Cahill ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 27 June 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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Yes they are different mixes. On the stereo LP from 1:18 to 1:23 there are horns in one channel. On the single, those horns are completely mixed out. The single also runs at a faster pitch than the original LP version, but most CDs seem to be pitched up to be closer to the single's pitch.
The database shows some mono sources which might be the 45 mix, I don't have any of those to check. The mono 45 mix has been issued in Canada on the Club Z Collection, CD Club 701 "Solid Gold 70'Z". I don't know if it's different enough to be a 45 "version" or a "45 mix". Then there's the discussion as to whether or not all stereo issues should read, "LP mix sped up to match 45 pitch". I'll let the judges decide all of that. |
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Indy500 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 January 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I can still hear the horns at 1:18 to 1:23 on:
(M) (2:56) K-Tel 3130 60's Sound Explosion Not as loud as other passages but it's there. |
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Yah Shure ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 11 December 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Bill, your stereo LP mix description also matches the stereo side of the DJ 45. Those left-channel horns on the stereo side are mixed out on the mono side for a full ten seconds between 1:18 and 1:28. I also have several reissue 45s on Flashback. The mono Bell-distributed pressing is from the identical stamper as my DJ 45's mono side. The Arista-distributed pressing is true stereo (although the "Candida" side is mono.) My mono "Knock Three Times" runs an actual 2:56, the same as the printed time. Edited by Yah Shure |
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Bill Cahill ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 27 June 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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Indy, there are actually some horns on both the left and right channels. The ones Yah Sure and I hear mixed out are the louder ones. I think the lower ones on the other channel are still on the mono 45. So I'm not sure which horns you might be hearing in that section.
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