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    Posted: 13 January 2006 at 8:13am
Always enjoyed Gerry Rafferty's work--and for a long time the (4:08) 45 version of "Baker Street" was one of the hardest to track down on CD. Now I'd like to try to edit his other three LP versions on CD to match the 45 (strangely enough, "Days Gone Down" is still not available on CD while his other top-40 hits are)--that is, of course, when my computer gets repaired.

I did create one edit of "Right Down The Line" from a somewhat scratchy 45 put onto a CD for me--but because it's somewhat scratchy I'm not sure if I nailed the edits (converting the LP to a 45 also requires a slightly faster change in speed/pitch). But for "Home And Dry" and "Get It Right Next Time" I haven't a clue about edits or pitch/speed. Anyone have any insight?

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i have all 5 of his top 40 hits on cd, but NOT in the 45 versions........i have a few that paul re-created in their 45 versions on cd.......can i send mps of them to your for your review.........i also have the actual 45's of all 5 top 40 songs as well....if you need them
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"Get It Right Next Time" has a lousy-sounding fade-in for the 45 version. I recreated it, but it sounds sloppy, just like the 45. I can't remember if this one required a speed adjustment like the City to City singles did.
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Originally posted by edtop40 edtop40 wrote:

i have all 5 of his top 40 hits on cd, but NOT in the 45 versions........i have a few that paul re-created in their 45 versions on cd.......can i send mps of them to your for your review.........i also have the actual 45's of all 5 top 40 songs as well....if you need them


I'll take you up on that, but I'll let you know when (once my home computer is repaired). Thanks! :)
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Originally posted by Roscoe Roscoe wrote:

"Get It Right Next Time" has a lousy-sounding fade-in for the 45 version. I recreated it, but it sounds sloppy, just like the 45. I can't remember if this one required a speed adjustment like the City to City singles did.


Interesting. Is that the only difference between the 45 and LP for "Get It Right Next Time," or are there others?
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ok let me know
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Originally posted by sriv94 sriv94 wrote:

Originally posted by Roscoe Roscoe wrote:

"Get It Right Next Time" has a lousy-sounding fade-in for the 45 version. I recreated it, but it sounds sloppy, just like the 45. I can't remember if this one required a speed adjustment like the City to City singles did.


Interesting. Is that the only difference between the 45 and LP for "Get It Right Next Time," or are there others?


A chunk of the long instrumental outro has also been edited out, but I can't remember where the edit is. I don't think there's a speed adjustment, though. I just listened to the fade-in from the 45 version again. It starts at about the :31 second mark and the full fade-in only takes for about 1 second. That's why it sounds so sloppy.
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For the single version of "Right Down The Line," edit the introduction
from 0:08 to 0:23, using the cowbell hit as the marker. After that,
edit the guitar solo from 2:25 to 2:40, using the normal beats. After
that edit out the end of the track from 3:42 on. Then go back and
add a fade-out from just after the last big piano chord to the end.
The fade-out is at first gradual then drops quickly from 3:37 on, so
use a 'convex' curve on the fade-out. After that, speed up the track
to 105%, and that should do it. (The time markers are rounded to
the nearest second, but you'll be able to use the beats to determine
the edits.) I'm working on single versions for "Days Gone Down" and
"Get It RIght Next Time". The single version of "Days" is not only
edited but repeats and tags on the second chorus to the end of the
track.
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Thanks, Paul, for the update. Unfortunately, some of the jargon is new to me--what is a "convex" curve?
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It just means that if you have a special fade designer on your sound
program, instead of a striaght-line fade, you adjust the fade to be
flatter at the beginning, then gradually becoming steeper to the end,
so it appears to be an arc (a convex, or curved, line). 'Convex' is my
term; I don't know what the official jargon would be.
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