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    Posted: 26 January 2006 at 8:39pm
pat...i agree the 45 version has a slightly different fade out than the super hits of the 70's cd..........but..........the full lp version is available and can that version be edited down to match the 45 version........
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I don't believe the 45 can be extracted from the LP...I've tried. The last few seconds of the 45 (can't remember the extact time point as I am in Thailand on holiday and away from my music at the moment) are not present on the LP. Must have been an even longer master tape from which the 45 and LP were created.
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Originally posted by davidclark davidclark wrote:

I don't believe the 45 can be extracted from the LP...I've tried. The last few seconds of the 45 (can't remember the extact time point as I am in Thailand on holiday and away from my music at the moment) are not present on the LP. Must have been an even longer master tape from which the 45 and LP were created.


Were you using the "true" LP version to try to recreate the edit? According to the database, the LP version only appears on one domestic CD; all other CD appearances are a different edit (e.g. the version that appears on Rhino Super Hits of the 70s Vol. 2). It's definitely not possible to recreate the 45 from that version.

According to the database, the LP version runs 4:24. I have not heard the full LP version, but it would be interesting to see if the 45 version can be recreated from this long version.
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The U.S. 45 can be recreated from the full-length mono LP version, but unfortunately all stereo versions I've heard (and there's quite a few in various countries) are not quite full performance length to begin with.

I keep searching...

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to Roscoe,

I am aware that most versions of it are that incorrect edit and did not use that as my starting point. I believe I have the LP version in stereo, as it runs about that length. I can not locate the last few seconds of the single in that LP version I have. I also have a mono LP version that I will check when I get home.
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Did anyone ever come up with a conclusion to this thread? Can the "E" LP version be folded down to the original mono version? How much shorter does the LP version run when edited to match the 45?
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hi aaronk,

no, we didn't come to a conclusion on this one. But here's my take on it (after trying to create the 45 from a stereo LP version someone had sent me).

The 45 edits out from 1:52 to 1:56 and from 2:24 to 2:43, then from 3:04 to the end there is a piece that is not present on the LP version - as I mentioned above I can only assume the master is longer than both the LP and 45, each being created from it and the 45 uses a piece not used for the LP.
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I just heard a vinyl copy of the full (4:24) LP version. It CAN be edited down to make the 45 version. The ending of the 45, which is not present on the (3:15) stereo versions, IS present on the mono LP version.

The only question that remains is can we fold that electronic stereo version down to make it sound good?
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Hi Aaron.

hummm...interesting. I could not find that end piece in the stereo LP version I have. If it's in the mono LP version, great (where?), however I have already made a stereo version of the 45 but using the mono piece at the end.

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David,

It's right at the ending of the song. The 45 uses the fadeout of the mono LP version. Right after the "da da da da" heard on the stereo "neither" versions is the "looking for some happiness" part. How long is the stereo version that you have, and what is the run time?

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