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    Posted: 27 April 2006 at 3:08pm
the 45 runs 2:36 while the cd version from "guilty
pleasures" runs 2:29.........so the entry should have the
qualifier.....(0:09 shorter than 45).......

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Does anyone know how long Celebration featuring Mike Love's "Almost Summer" runs on the original vinyl LP?
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The LP "Almost Summer" has this song running (2:37).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Todd Ireland Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 May 2006 at 9:41pm
So perhaps the (:09 shorter than the 45) comment in the database regarding the 2:29 length of "Almost Summer" on the Guilty Pleasures disc should be revised to indicate that it's an early fade of the 45 and LP length.
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So, I'm on a 1970s kick lately, and I've been going back and dusting off
(or trying to find) some old 1970s tunes that I either forgot about or never
knew in the first place.

I've probably only heard this song a few times in my life since it never
pops up on compilations (not even Beach Boys' compilations).

I've heard the "Guilty Pleasures" CD but do not own it. I never bothered to
buy it for "Almost Summer" because of the database's notation that the
2:29 version of that song is shorter than the 45 or LP version and,
therefore, not completely the real deal.

I do not own the 45 or LP (and never have) and I have absolutely no doubt
that they run 2:37/2:38 as reported above.

But.... in trying to find a place to listen to this elusive track, I looked it up
on YouTube and, lo and behold, there was a video of somebody playing
the Promo 45 of this song. From a screenshot, i can see that the Promo
45 appears to be labeled MCA Records 545-1982 (MC7244). It's kind of
blurry, but I believe that is what it says.

Almost Summer
Promo 45


Ok, so what's the big deal? Well, the Promo 45 in the video is not running
2:38 (like the Commercial 45 and LP apparently do), but is running closer
to 2:28/2:29, which is what the song runs on "Guilty Pleasures."

So, what's the story? Was there in fact a Promo 45 that had a 2:29 run
time that was 9 seconds shorter than the Commercial 45/LP version? It
appears there was and, if so, is this then the DJ version that appears on
"Guilty Pleasures?"
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I can't answer those questions but I do know the Guilty Pleasures CD definitely uses a vinyl source for that song, and I think there's a great chance it was faded 10 seconds early to hide the record noises that would be more present as the record is fading.
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The song has a very long fade out that is really quiet at the end. On the 45 dub I have, the last audible line is "no giving the teacher dirty looks" at 2:36.
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JL, you can't depend on YouTube any more than Wikipedia for accuracy. Is the poster's turntable speed accurate? Is the entire record being played? Many YouTube needledrops I've seen - including this one - clip off the end of the record.

And what about the actual record being played? The DJ 45 shown in that clip (MCA S45-1982) is not the standard U.S. DJ 45. MCA usually used that numbering sequence for promo-only 45s which had no standard commercial counterpart. The promotional KRTH customized version, for example, was issued as MCA S45-1986.

My standard issue U.S. DJ 45 (MCA 40891) carried the same catalog number as the commercial 45. Although it states a running time of (2:38) the actual time of (2:36) matches that of Aaron's dub. I might also add that the record on that YouTube clip runs considerably faster than my DJ 45.
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Thanks for that info, Yah Sure. Very helpful.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote edtop40 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 July 2013 at 8:54pm
i stand corrected...the vinyl 45 runs 2:36 like aaron
mentions above....so the db entry should be amended for the
lone cd appearance to says '0:08 shorter than 45'...i think
the 'guily pleasures' cd sounds like a tape source....i do
not detect any surface noise or other vinyl type
anomalies.....
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