Chic-"I Want Your Love"

Jim, I time my 45 at (3:24), a dj copy, and have found that all cd's that feature the 45 version run much slower than the 45.

Edtop40,

My commercial 45 also runs 3:21. Will check my deadwax and post it. Update, my copy has the same deadwax as yours does.

Edited by KentT

The version on Rhino's Disco Years Vol. 2 (1990) runs slow. I don't have a 45 to compare, though, so I'm not sure how slow.

These discs use the same analog transfer as Disco Years, and also run slow:

• Rhino's cheapie Disco Hits Vol. 4 (1994; digitally identical to Disco Years)
• Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 36 More AM Nuggets (1994)
• Madacy's Rock On 1979 (1996; digitally exactly 0.3 dB quieter than Time-Life disc)
• Simitar's Number Ones Soul On Fire (1999; digitally identical to Disco Years)

Edited by crapfromthepast

Bwci Bo, I think we all understand exactly what it is you are asking here.
The problem is that the answer you seek is not cut and dried.

In many previous instances, we have found actual stock 45s with minor,
actual time differences. Usually, all these different reported timings are
exactly correct, as those of us who commonly do such timings/report our
findings are big sticklers for accuracy.    

This situation usually happens for one of two reasons: Stock 45s were
manufactured at different pressing plants, using master 45 stampers that
were prepared slightly differently. Each stamper can only produce so
many copies, before they must be replaced. (Our own YahShure might
have more specifics on this, as he is quite familiar with pressing plant
particulars.) Quite often, different staff audio technicians would prepare
"master stamper #2", etc. Such minor speed/fade differences become
apparent in cases like this. Because no two people complete a task exactly
the same way.

When I want to determine a "tie-breaker" in cases like this, I will usually
take the actual timing of the promo 45. Because those were almost always
the first 45 copies made. (Unless the song was a huge hit, and the label
needed to make some additional, "DJ re-service" promo copies.)

So, since Pat's timing was from the DJ copy, my decision would be to use
his (3:24) timing. But it can also be a matter of personal taste. After all,
you're the one that's gonna be listening to the song. All three of these
timings are both legitimate and official. They were all made in 1979. And
none were bootleg copies. Use the timing that your own ear likes best.
Hope this helps.....

Edited by jimct

Edit: I now doubt that the 45 version CDs that I noted
above run slow.

They're the same tempo as the LP versions.

It's more likely that they're faded at different points
than the 45.

I know that for "Le Freak", Bill Inglot re-edited the 45
version from very low-generation source tapes, and
instead of fading where the 45 fades, he let it run to
the end of the LP version.

For the Atlantic CDs that include the 45 edit of "Le
Freak", the edits were correct but the fade points were
way off from the actual 45.

I suspect that for "I Want Your Love", the fade points on
the Rhino CD are in different places than on the true 45.
Speed/pitch is most likely the same, unless the true 45
is sped up or slowed down from the LP version.