Top 40 Music on CD Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > Top 40 Music On Compact Disc > Chat Board
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Elton John - The One
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Elton John - The One

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>
Author
Message
aaronk View Drop Down
Admin Group
Admin Group


Joined: 16 January 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 172
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aaronk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Elton John - The One
    Posted: 06 February 2011 at 1:48pm
The database says DJ 45 copies ran 4:30 and 4:50, but it doesn't list promo CD info. At the least, there was a 1-track promo that had the full album version and a printed time of 5:49. The shorter versions may have been issued on another promo CD.
Back to Top
aaronk View Drop Down
Admin Group
Admin Group


Joined: 16 January 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 172
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aaronk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 February 2011 at 1:53pm
Actually, looking at the song note more closely, that info might be incorrect altogether. It says commercial copies were all 5:42, but CDs in the database run between 5:49 and 5:52 with no notation.

Pat, was this info accidentally included with the wrong song, or is the 5:42 a typo? The printed time on the US 45 says 5:49.
Back to Top
Pat Downey View Drop Down
Admin Group
Admin Group


Joined: 01 October 2003
Status: Offline
Points: 1
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pat Downey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 February 2011 at 12:27pm
The (5:42) time comes from Joel Whitburn's Hot 100 Annual so perhaps Joel has a typo. Let's passs this along to Paul Haney.
Back to Top
Paul Haney View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan
Avatar

Joined: 01 April 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 41
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Paul Haney Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 February 2011 at 7:08am
Originally posted by Pat Downey Pat Downey wrote:

The (5:42) time comes from Joel Whitburn's Hot 100 Annual so perhaps Joel has a typo. Let's passs this along to Paul Haney.


I've found several cassette single timings from the 1990s where we were off by a few seconds. I've corrected dozens of them over the past few years. I'll re-time "The One" when I get a chance...unless someone else can beat me to it in the meantime.
Back to Top
Hykker View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 30 October 2007
Location: United States
Status: Online
Points: 23
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hykker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 February 2011 at 9:47am
Originally posted by Paul Haney Paul Haney wrote:

I've found several cassette single timings from the 1990s where we were off by a few seconds. I've corrected dozens of them over the past few years.


Is it the singles themselves that are off, or was it the deck itself? I've noticed a considerable variation in speed from one cassette deck to another.
Back to Top
Paul Haney View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan
Avatar

Joined: 01 April 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 41
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Paul Haney Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 February 2011 at 2:16pm
Okay, I just re-timed the cassette single of "The One" by Elton John and got a timing of (5:40). I tried it on the 2 cassette decks available to me (both of which have been perfect in the past) and got the same result. I compared it to the version on the CD album and the cassette does run slightly faster. In fact, the album version sounded slightly slower than what I remembered hearing on the radio back in 1992.

If anybody else has the cassette single and comes up with a different time, please post it.
Back to Top
Paul Haney View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan
Avatar

Joined: 01 April 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 41
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Paul Haney Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 February 2011 at 2:18pm
Originally posted by Hykker Hykker wrote:

Originally posted by Paul Haney Paul Haney wrote:

I've found several cassette single timings from the 1990s where we were off by a few seconds. I've corrected dozens of them over the past few years.


Is it the singles themselves that are off, or was it the deck itself? I've noticed a considerable variation in speed from one cassette deck to another.


I wasn't timing the singles back in the cassette era, so I can't say for sure why some of them were off.
Back to Top
aaronk View Drop Down
Admin Group
Admin Group


Joined: 16 January 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 172
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aaronk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 February 2011 at 8:30pm
Thanks, Paul. So, do we have a case of "LP speed" and "45 speed"? Is it worth noting the near-10-second timing difference between what was on the single and the database CDs?
Back to Top
jimct View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 07 April 2006
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 0
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jimct Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 April 2011 at 6:59am
Originally posted by aaronk aaronk wrote:

The database says DJ 45 copies ran 4:30 and 4:50, but
it doesn't list promo CD info. At the least, there was a 1-track promo
that had the full album version and a printed time of 5:49. The shorter
versions may have been issued on another promo CD.
Aaron,
your theory is exactly correct. We got in two different promo CD singles
for this, and here are the particulars:

-Elton John-"The One" (MCA5P-2263)
1-(non-described version) (listed 5:49; actual 5:51)


-Elton John-"The One" (MCA5P-2302)
1-Short Edit (listed 4:30; actual 4:33)
2-Early Faded (listed 4:50; actual 4:46)

I will shortly shoot out both cuts on the 2-track promo to Aaron, for his
further research/evaluation.
Back to Top
aaronk View Drop Down
Admin Group
Admin Group


Joined: 16 January 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 172
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aaronk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 April 2011 at 10:27pm
I was just able to dissect the short versions of "The One." As expected, the "Early Faded" version is merely an early fade of the full length version. The "Short Edit" fades in the same place as the "Early Faded" version, but the intro is cut in half, too; it removes the section from approximately 0:05.6 to 0:18.3.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.07
Copyright ©2001-2024 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.049 seconds.