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    Posted: 19 April 2015 at 2:47pm
Would anyone know if there was a 45 edit/version of Graceland? The CD version I have is 4:50 and I have to think there is a shorter one, but I don't have a single. Thanks!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sriv94 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 April 2015 at 4:12pm
There is a promo version that runs (4:00), on the other side of the full-length version. According to Discogs, all US stock singles were the full-length version.

ETA: Ron (crapfromthepast) has both, looking at his 1987 list. Can the promo be extracted from the full-length version?

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Ron, were you ever able to make the comparison?
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I'm having a really difficult time replicating the intro. It sounds like there should be just one or two edits to shorten the intro, but I can't pin down where they are.

There's an early fade, too.

I realize that's not terribly helpful, but after struggling with this for an hour, I'm ready to call for backup...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aaronk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2015 at 8:04pm
There are two edits on the intro. Starting with the LP version from the "Graceland" CD:

1) Pitch up the entire song by about 0.7%.
2) Edit from the downbeat at 6.5 seconds to the downbeat at 14.5 seconds. (If you're counting bass drum beats, the edit occurs on the 13th beat and cuts out 16 bass drum beats.)
3) With what you have remaining, edit on the snare drum at 12.3 seconds, and cut to the last snare drum before the first vocal at 20.1 seconds.
4) Fade out from 3:51 (on the word "Graceland") to 3:59.
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Thanks, Aaron!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eriejwg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 May 2015 at 10:53am
I too am having issues with trying to come up with the
DJ promo edit, even with following Aaron's
instructions.

I have a client that's requested this song for dinner
music at their wedding in a few weeks and I would rather
play the promo edit.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eriejwg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 May 2015 at 11:35am
After the pitch up and the first edit, does the edit go
from 12.3 to 30.1 instead of 20.1?

I'm confused.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sriv94 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 June 2015 at 4:57pm
I think you hit on it, John. I think it works if you edit from (:12.36) to (:32.38). I'll forward my version for comparison to your attempt.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eriejwg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 June 2015 at 8:44pm
It's always hard to replicate a 45 version or promo edit
without an actual source. My usual source (YouTube)
didn't yield even a video or dub of the promo edit.

Doug, yours sounded smoother than mine in the intro. I
got the first edit right, it was the 2nd one that threw
me as I maybe was a hair off.
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