Al Stewart - Midnight Rocks

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   Another fantastic catch by Edtop40...  "Midnight Rocks" does not have a designator in the database, but it should read "LP version" and "45 version" as the 45 is an edit of the LP version.

What's interesting is that both versions run (3:55); however, the 45 inserts the bridge into the song again after the horn solo (spliced in at 2:23).  (This is the part that says "ahhh, you know you know it's easy.")  They faded the remainder of the song early to the (3:55) mark.

I'll leave it up to Pat to determine which database entries contain the appropriate versions.

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aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 178	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Al Stewart - Midnight Rocks Posted: 10 July 2006 at 11:49pm
	Another fantastic catch by Edtop40... "Midnight Rocks" does not have a designator in the database, but it should read "LP version" and "45 version" as the 45 is an edit of the LP version. What's interesting is that both versions run (3:55); however, the 45 inserts the bridge into the song again after the horn solo (spliced in at 2:23). (This is the part that says "ahhh, you know you know it's easy.") They faded the remainder of the song early to the (3:55) mark. I'll leave it up to Pat to determine which database entries contain the appropriate versions.

EdisonLite Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 203	Post Options Post Reply Quote EdisonLite Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 July 2006 at 1:32am
	Interestingly, Arista released a 3" CD single of Al Stewart in the late '80s (with his 3 biggest hits) and the version of "Midnight Rocks" on there is 4:20. I guess this is a previously unreleased version. This version also has two bridges like the single. My guess is that this was the "double bridge" edit made for the 45 (from the LP) but without being faded to a 3:55 length.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 178	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 July 2006 at 1:37am
	The bridge section edited in at (2:23) runs exactly 26 seconds, so I'd guess you're correct, EdisonLite. I'm guessing this version has an extra 26 seconds of horn solo at the end?

EdisonLite Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 203	Post Options Post Reply Quote EdisonLite Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 March 2008 at 7:56pm
	I've been doing some updates to my '80 and '81 songs today and yesterday, and yes, to answer your question Aaron (albeit a year and 9 months later -- SORRY!), that's what occurs on the extended single version - I studied these versions today and on the Arista 3" CD single, the bridge is edited in a second time (at 2:23) (like the real single version) and they just let the song keep going instead of fading to 3:55 as they do on the single. The sax/horn solo ending is exactly as it is on the album version, but it starts 26 seconds later. That's what's on the Al Stewart Arista 3" CD single (a 3 song CD single also with the single edits of "Time Passages" and "Year of the Cat"). I know singles are not logged in the database, but for those who are curious, that's what this version is, and I'd label it "extended single version" or "26 seconds longer than the single version".

crapfromthepast Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 69	Post Options Post Reply Quote crapfromthepast Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 April 2014 at 8:11pm
	I like the mastering on Rhino's Radio Daze Vol. 3 (1995) better than Songs From The Radio The Best Of (1992) or Greatest Hits (2004). This is really unusual, with a passage from the LP version being repeated and spliced into the 45. Here are editing instructions for recreating the 45 edit from Rhino's Radio Daze Vol. 3: Segment 1: Extends from 0:00.0 to 2:23.7 of both the 45 edit and the LP version. Ends on a downbeat. Segment 2: Begins and ends on a downbeat. Is the bridge, repeated for the 45. Extends from 2:23.7 to 2:49.7 of the 45 edit. Extends from 1:05.7 to 1:31.7 of the LP version. Segment 3: Begins and ends on a downbeat. Extends from 2:49.7 to 3:51.8 of the 45 edit. Extends from 2:23.7 to 3:25.8 of the LP version. Fade: 24 beats long Extends from 3:39.1 to 3:51.8 of the 45 edit. Extends from 3:13.2 to 3:25.8 of the LP version. Your mixdown will run 3:51.8, with edits at 2:23.7 and 2:49.7.
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VWestlife Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 02 April 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote VWestlife Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 November 2020 at 10:52am
	As for the two singles from Al Stewart's "24 P/Carrots" album that didn't chart, "Mondo Sinistro" is identical to the album version except with the little squeak noise at the beginning removed, while "Paint By Numbers" was shortened to 3:33 and had the electric guitar re-recorded and brought way up in the mix to give it more of a hard-rock sound, just like the treatment that Pat Benatar's "Hit Me With Your Best Shot" got for its 45 RPM release. Here's a video of the 45 RPM version of "Paint By Numbers": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2GZv4WP5bY Edited by VWestlife