Daydream Believer- Monkees

Is there really no thread on this song?

The 45 Version has a :07 spoken introduction. It was a dialog between Davy Jones and somebody concerning which take they were on. There was a short joke thrown in there as well.

I'm trying to figure out the time difference between the original 45/LP Version and the CD Versions.

According to the database, the 45/LP Version ran about 2:56 with the :07 introduction.

The CD Versions run about 2:56 without the introduction and run about 3:05 with the introduction.

So, does anybody know what the time difference is? Was the CD version without the introduction slowed down to match the 2:56 run time of the original 45/LP version with the introduction?

I realize that this question can easily be answered by comparing the CD Version with the 45 or LP, but I don't own either of the original sources.

Hi JL. The version of "Daydream Believer" with a longer fade is a remix that was done by Bill Inglot back in the '80s (not to be confused with the version with re-recorded drums, which hasn't appeared on CD.)

Looking at the database, it looks like the early CD appearances of this song used Inglot's remix, while later CDs (from roughly the mid-'90s on) use the original stereo or mono mixes, either with or without the spoken introduction.

Gene - From memory...

Arista released the Then And Now 2-LP greatest hits set in 1986, which included a newly-recorded called "That But Then This Is Now" (produced by Michael Lloyd, and originally recorded in 1985 by the Mosquitos). Arista released the new song as a 45, and it did respectably. Arista turned to "Daydream Believer" as a follow-up single, but let Michael Lloyd remix it to fit in with the 1986 bombastic-drum-sound stuff on the charts. Radio largely ignored it.

The 1986 "Daydream Believer" remix that hit the charts was NOT subtle; it was a drastic overhaul that brought the (rerecorded?) drums WAY out in front. You'd know it if you heard it, and you'd scratch your head afterward wondering why it even exists.

The new remix was released on a 45 on Arista, and I think there would have been a promo 45 as well (I can't confirm). I have the track on an Arista promo-only multi-artist LP (can't recall the title offhand).

The Bill Inglot remix is faithful to the original mix, and is extremely tasteful in comparison.

I'm wondering if it is this mixas the drums sound all kinds of wrong.

A friend an Monkees fan says this remix was on the "Then / Now" LP / CD released that was mentioned by CFTP. The database, however, seems to suggest it had the Inglot mix.

Can anybody confirm if the "Then / Now" version is the Inglot or the Lloyd mix?

The title track (and only new recording on the CD)
"That Was Then, This is Now" was first issued as "The
Monkees" but later changed to "Mickey Dolenz and Peter
Tork (of the Monkees). I believe this change was made
because Davy complained that Arista didn't have the
right to issue that song as "the Monkees". But the
song did well enough to warrant a follow up. Without
another "new" song on that CD, Arista chose to create
a Michael Lloyd remix of "Daydream Believer" with
updated drums and other instruments, hoping to get
some CHR play (as they did with "That Was Then..") but
apparently it didn't do well enough to warrant re-
issuing the CD with the Michael Lloyd remix. So to
this day, I've only found the Michael Lloyd version on
that 1986 Arista 45.

Edited by Bill Cahill