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    Posted: 12 July 2008 at 3:27pm
I picked up an original Dolton 45 on "Mr. Blue" and notice that there is reverb right from the start of the song, unlike CD versions I've heard, like the Come Softly To Me Compilation and the 10 Best Series. On those CDs the vocal is completely dry as the song starts. Does anyone know if the dry version is an album version, or if the version with reverb on the vocal start has made it to CD anywhere?
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The Liberty "All-Time Hits" reissue, number 54515, also contains the version with reverb right from the beginning.

I'm fairly certain the single version is on both mono and stereo pressings of the fleetwoods greatest hits lp on Dolton but at the moment I can't locate either my dad's mono copy or my own stereo copy. My biggest problem is having too many records and not having enough places to put them. I will have to edit this further later on unless someone else can post whether or not these two pressings of the lp contain the single version or not.
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How interesting! I don't recall ever hearing a version with reverb at the start. While my collection doesn't include a 45 of Mr. Blue, it does have several LPs with the track. All but possibly one have the dry vocal.

Here are the titles I checked:

Original Hits: Past & Present Liberty Mono 1960
Fleetwoods Greatest Hits Dolton Stereo 1962
Original Golden Greats Volume 5 Liberty Stereo 1968
Very Best of the Fleetwoods United Artists Stereo 1975

Mr. Blue is fake stereo on all three (and very muddy on Greatest Hits), but the 1968 LP seems to have a very small amount of reverb at the beginning.

Should I be hearing a lot of reverb on the Dolton 45? And does your original Dolton single have the 6th Avenue or Union Street address?

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Nice catch, Bill!

Gary, I listened to the reprossesed stereo version on Original Golden Greats Volume 5 (Liberty 7575) and it sounds like that touch of reverb - which is only in the right channel - was added during the stereo simulation process. I folded that mix to mono and compared it with the Dolton 45, and it's still noticeably drier than the 45; not that the 45 is overly wet. If you were to compare the Dolton 45 with the mono 45s of "Summertime, Summertime" or "Blue Moon," it is drier than those.

I have an RCA-pressed vinyl copy and the styrene pressing shown below, and both have the 6th Avenue address on the label.



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Originally posted by Yah Shure Yah Shure wrote:

Nice catch, Bill!

Gary, I listened to the reprossesed stereo version on Original Golden Greats Volume 5 (Liberty 7575) and it sounds like that touch of reverb - which is only in the right channel - was added during the stereo simulation process. I folded that mix to mono and compared it with the Dolton 45, and it's still noticeably drier than the 45; not that the 45 is overly wet. If you were to compare the Dolton 45 with the mono 45s of "Summertime, Summertime" or "Blue Moon," it is drier than those.

I have an RCA-pressed vinyl copy and the styrene pressing shown below, and both have the 6th Avenue address on the label.

According to the BSN discography for Dolton, the label moved from 6th Avenue to Union Street in 1960. I was wondering if only the first press of Mr. Blue had reverb and the dry version was perhaps substituted after the move. Does anyone have the Mr. Blue 45 with the Union address?

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My copy has the same address on the label as Yah Sure.
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Bumping up this thread to see if anyone has yet found a Dolton 45 copy of Mr. Blue without the reverb.
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Mr. Blue was never issued as a stereo 45. The only stereo that I'm aware of are, Graduation's Here and Come Softly To Me
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Wow, don't know how I missed this thread from four years ago. This is a great discovery. I'm not sure I've ever heard the reverby 45 version before. There seems to be reverb all through it, not just on the intro. Is it on CD anywhere? Here it is on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE6OkqFv5PM
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian W. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 August 2012 at 12:49pm
Has anyone checked the "Diner" soundtrack? It's hard to tell, but from the sound sample on All Music Guide it sounds like the reverb version MIGHT be on there...
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