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Paul Haney ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 41 |
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"Fly, Robin, Fly" was commercially released on a vinyl 45 with 2 different times: 3:45 and the more common 3:05.
"Get Up And Boogie (That's Right)" was commercially released on a vinyl 45 with 2 different times: 4:05 and the more common 2:45. |
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edtop40 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6 |
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paul.....the 45 issued in 1976 on midland int'l 10571 runs 4:00 even though the label face says the run time is 4:05
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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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Paul Haney claims a commercial vinyl 45 was issued for "Fly, Robin, Fly" with a run time of 3:45. I notice in the 10th edition of T40MOCD there are a number of CDs where "Fly, Robin, Fly" runs (3:46) or (3:47) but Pat comments in each instance that this is "neither the 45 or LP version". Could any or all of the CDs containing the 3:46-3:47 version actually be the 45 version that Paul cites?
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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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I guess the same also holds true for "Get Up and Boogie". There are a number of CDs in the 10th edition where the song runs between 3:57 and 3:59. Could this actually be the other 45 version Paul and Ed report?
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Paul Haney ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 41 |
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Okay, I've done some more research on these titles.
"Fly, Robin, Fly" vinyl 45's run 3:05 and 3:45. Thus all the 3:46-3:47 versions listed in Pat's book should be noted (long 45 version). "Get Up And Boogie" vinyl 45's run 2:45 and 4:00. Thus all the 3:58-3:59 versions listed in Pat's book should be noted (long 45 version). It should be noted that the shorter versions were the more commonly heard on Top 40 radio at the time. |
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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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Paul: Thanks for bringing the long 45 versions of the Silver Conventions' hits to our attention. Up until your posted messages, I was never aware these versions existed. Just curious though, did you go through all the CDs in Pat's book with the 3:46-3:47 versions of "Fly, Robin, Fly" and the 3:58-3:59 versions of "Get Up and Boogie" and verify they are all indeed the long 45 versions? I ask because if there's one thing I've learned with collecting Top 40 music on CD, it's that nothing can be taken for granted. Unless checked for verification, it's always possible that one, some, or all of the 3:46-3:47 CD appearances of "Fly, Robin, Fly" and 3:58-3:59 appearances of "Get Up and Boogie" could contain incorrect edits compared to the actual 45s. In fact, it was pointed out in another thread recently that a couple of Lionel Richie songs previously thought to be the 45 versions on CD turned out to have incorrect edits. While chances do appear pretty good the correct long 45 versions of "Fly, Robin, Fly" and "Get Up and Boogie" are widely available on CD, we don't really know for sure until someone goes through all the CDs and does A/B comparisons to the actual 45s (unless of course you've already done this, which would make my whole post moot!). |
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Paul Haney ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 41 |
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Hey Todd, here are the ones I checked:
"Fly, Robin, Fly" - Rhino 72123 & Rhino 72414 & Rhino 75595 and Priority 53142 "Get Up And Boogie" - Polydor 314565357. Those are the only ones I have and they are indeed the long 45 version. Would still be nice to see the 3:05 "Robin" surface on CD someday. |
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sriv94 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4 |
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Question about the (3:05) version--is the difference between the short 45 and long 45 the removal of the section between (approximately 0:43.01) and (approximately 1:21.12) of the long 45? Or are there other differences (meaning I got my edits compeltely wrong)?
Oh, and happy Turkey Day to y'all. Hope everyone's feast was bountiful. |
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 58 |
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The database lists the short 45 version as "short 45 version", but lists all the long 45 version discs as "long 45 version but slightly faster".
All the versions I have on CD (both long and short) run 105.0 BPM (a live drummer playing to a click track). Does anyone have a reliable needledrop of the long 45? I'll be happy to report a BPM value for the vinyl long 45, so we can compare with what's on CD. |
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Yah Shure ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 11 December 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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Ron, were you looking for "Fly, Robin, Fly" or "Get Up And Boogie"?
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