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    Posted: 16 December 2006 at 9:40pm
I noticed that the two CDs containing this song (the "Rain Man" soundtrack and the "Then '80s" CD) have different mixes, which I don't think anyone's pointed out before. It's especially apparent in the intro. If you cut off the 1st 1.5 seconds of the "Rain Man" intro, that's where the "Then '80s" intro starts -- except the "boingy" sound that begins the "Then '80s" intro has no click-sounding percussion underneath, while "Rain Man" has the boingy sound WITH a click-sounding percussion. Also, there seems to be some different percussion on the "Then" CD -- while the "Rain Man" version has much more stereo separation of instruments (particularly drums). The "Then" seems almost mono (but it's not.) Also, around 2:17 the versions totally diverge from each other. On "Rain Man", it just repeats the tag line over and over while the "Then" version has another chorus ("Talking 'bout Hey now, hey now..."

I know the "Then" CD series claims all are "original 45 versions" but in some cases it's not true (e.g. Get Wet's "Just So Lonely"). So is the "Then" version truly the 45 version and was it this mono-ish? Also, this was a hit in the UK in '82, but a hit here in '89. So maybe -- is there an '82 mix and an '89 mix?

If anyone can shoot an mp3 my way of the 45, I can help to figure out what version is what.

This was a #14 hit --I'm surprised nobody on this board caught it (or at least mentioned it on the board). :)

Seems like we're always unearthing something new. I hope this turns out to be a single mix.
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The version on "Then '80s" is NOT the 45 version.
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Paul, is the 45 version the same as the album version?
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yes....the 45 and cassingle version are both the same as the lp version from the "rain man" soundtrack, and they all run 2:52.....btw...the 45's face states the run time as 2:49....
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So does anyone know what version is on "Then 5"? Is it a 12" remix? an unreleased alternate mix?
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Interesting... Usually, the Varese Sarabande label is careful about including the correct hit versions on their CDs, especially when the packaging indeed says "original 45 versions". So EdisonLite may be on to something here... Could the mix of "Iko Iko" appearing on the Then 80's - Totally Oldies 5 CD (Varese Saraband 302066444) be the original non-hit mix that was first released in 1982? Also, notice that the mix on Then 80's runs :04 longer than on the Rain Man soundtrack.
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Jim recently sent me a copy of the "7-inch Mix" for review, which is contained on the 12" vinyl single. I'm guessing this mix was not actually included on the 7" single, because it's totally different with a hip-hop beat behind it. The rhythm track uses samples from Rob Base's hit "It Takes Two."
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<I'm guessing this mix was not actually included on the 7" single, because it's totally different with a hip-hop beat behind it. >

It sounds like the mix on "Then 5" is not the mix Aaron speaks of above, as it doesn't really have a hip hop beat. It's not that far from the original mix. It's got more percussion but definitely not something radically different that I'd label hip hop (ala the '90s mix of "December 1963.") So it sounds like there's at least 4 mixes floating around out there of the Belle Stars recording:

the LP/45 mix
the mystery mix on "Then 5"
The 12" vinyl mix
and the other mix on the 12" vinyl disc called "7-inch mix".

Unless someone has all 4 of these, I suppose it's possible there's overlap here.

And who knows if there was a 1982 7" mix that would bring the total to 5.
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And one more thought ... was there a Belle Stars LP with this song (either in '89 or '82)? Maybe the "Rain Man" LP has one mix (that became the hit) but the Belle Stars LP has another mix??
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aaronk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 December 2006 at 8:23pm
Originally posted by EdisonLite EdisonLite wrote:

I suppose it's possible there's overlap here.


I think you're probably accurate on all four of those being unique mixes. The 7-inch Mix on the 12" single sounds like a short version of the 12" Mix, which is radically different.
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