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    Posted: 06 June 2006 at 11:43pm
Pat's book states the promo 45 lists times of (4:48) and (3:57), but both sides actually run (5:00). My promo 45 is not like this. My listed (4:48) side, shown as "Side A", does actually run (5:00)(Deadwax PB-14387-A), but my listed (3:57) side, shown as "Side 1" and specifying (Edited Version), actually runs (4:02). Deadwax PB-14387-C.
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Wow here is yet another bizarre story from the world of dj promos. There really are two different pressings of this dj 45 as I have copies that state (3:57) but run (5:00) and another that states (3:57) and runs (4:02)! The matrix number on the one that runs (5:00) is PB-14387-C but there is an "A" superimposed over the "C". I have an extra copy of this mispressed dj 45 if you would like a copy Jim.
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Pat, I'd love your spare "dual 5:00" version promo 45. Thanks! Finally starting to go through your want list - I'm discovering that my "spares" aren't NEARLY as organized and categorized as my primary "library" copies, but I'm tryin' to track them down for you, Mr. Downey!

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Jim & Pat:

Just for the record, in addition to correcting that
mispressed dj 45, RCA went even one step further w/
"Dreamtime". Believe it or not, even though it was only
the Summer of '86, the label also made a promo (dj) CD
single for that one! It's definitely one of the first
promo CD singles ever issued here in the U.S. (perhaps
THE first??? - if anyone can cite an earlier example, I'd
be curious), and I found one during my record-store
travels a few years ago. (I'm a long-time H&O fan, and
although "Dreamtime" was never one of my favorites, I
bought it simply because I knew how old & rare it was for
a promo CD single, and not so much because it contained
the single version[s].) Unfortunately, it's buried away
somewhere in my closet at the moment, but I'm pretty sure
it includes both the (5:00) and (4:02) versions you guys
describe above. Label & no. is RCA 14386-2-RDJ. (And if
you're wondering where I got that from since I don't have
the CD handy, it's actually documented in Gregory
Cooper's now out-of-print 1998 catalog, "Collectible
Compact Disc Price Guide 2", although I notice the
"14386" catalog no. actually matches the vinyl promo 12"
single, not the 45.)

At any rate, the 10th edition of Pat's book indicates
that only the (4:44) "LP length" version of "Dreamtime"
has ever been issued on a commercial CD in the U.S., so
that promo definitely includes a single version or two
unavailable elsewhere on CD...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote elcoleccionista Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 June 2006 at 5:06pm
I remember seeing that promo CD on Ebay last year and was quite surprised of its existence.
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Thanks for the memory jogger, 80smusicfreak! I forgot I even HAD a 1986 promo CD singles section. I have THREE 1986 Top 40 BB hits on promo CD single. "Dreamtime" (CR-14386), was the SECOND of them to arrive, in August '86. It has just one version, with a listed run time (4:48), and an actual run time of (5:00). Our station had no use for the promo; we already knew a (4:02) version was included on the promo 45. We were unpleasantly surprised RCA didn't include that short version on the promo CD single. Perhaps Pat's "overwritten C to A" in the deadwax of his (5:00) on both sides promo 45 was an RCA attempt to make that (4:02) short promo 45 version disappear, and to "re-vitalize" their "newfangled service to radio", the promo CD single? Stranger things have happened. FYI: The EARLIEST Top 40 hit on a promo CD single that we ever received: 38 Special-"Like No Other Night" (CD 17378), in May '86. The 3rd and last 1986 Top 40 hit on a promo CD single? OMD-"(Forever) Live And Die" (CD 17422), in September. A&M put out promo CD singles #1 & #3; RCA #2, and all 3 contained just ONE version. We even actually received ONE PROMO cassette into the station! Any guesses? Actually, a few months LATER, in March of 1987, (the now, apparently cutting-edge) A&M records again, sent us a 45 AND cassette sealed "Radio-Take Your Pick" 2-pack for Bryan Adams "Heat Of The Night." What was A&M thinking? Cassettes for radio?? Oh, yeah, casettes make "carting up" music a snap!@#%&! I still have that sealed copy. Wonder what it would fetch on eBay???      
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote elcoleccionista Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 June 2006 at 6:11pm
I'm happier each day that I have become a member of this forum. That's one juicy post Jim, thanks!
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I have nothing to add here except that I think it's a fine song! I love it!
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I Wonder how many promo CD singles there were that first year (1986)? I have the Police's remake of their own "Don't Stand So Close To Me" on a Promo CD single. Since it only made #46 (#35 sales), it obviously is outside the scope of this forum...
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Chuck, I have always loved that '86 version.

If interested, there is a 5.1 DTS mix of it on the "Every Breath You Take: The DVD" compilation (it was not included on the DTS CD versions of this release).

What is the promo's track listing?

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