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   my Pentagram 45 plays 2:31 but all CD versions play the 3:00 min lp version. The edit is hard because the singer grunts right at the edit point, but that grunt isn't heard on the 45.

1 Maybe it's different guitar solo

2 Maybe I'm doing something wrong

Anyone recreate the 45 from the lp yet?

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Indy500 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 January 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Indy500 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Redeye -- Games Posted: 05 February 2008 at 8:54am
	my Pentagram 45 plays 2:31 but all CD versions play the 3:00 min lp version. The edit is hard because the singer grunts right at the edit point, but that grunt isn't heard on the 45. 1 Maybe it's different guitar solo 2 Maybe I'm doing something wrong Anyone recreate the 45 from the lp yet?

sriv94 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote sriv94 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 February 2008 at 9:28am
	I seem to recall trying it and coming away with the conclusion that the 45 could not be made from the LP. I don't have the 45, but I had access to a radio aircheck that had the single unscoped (don't think I have access to it anymore). But I seem to recall also running into diffculty at the instrumental break. And the aircheck wasn't clear enough to splice in.
	Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken.

Yah Shure Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 11 December 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Yah Shure Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 February 2008 at 9:36am
	I attempted the same thing some years ago. The stereo Pentagram 45 is a remix, different from the stereo mix on the LP/CD version.

AndrewChouffi Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 24 September 2005 Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote AndrewChouffi Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 February 2008 at 7:33pm
	Yes, the commercial 45 I own is a remix/edit (a good one). Does anyone know if the 45 version exists on an import CD? Andy

jrjr Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 28 December 2006 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jrjr Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 February 2008 at 3:08pm
	andy... one of my favorite lost 45's of the 70's, and i've been dying to hear the 45 version! any chance you can shoot it to me via e-mail??? jr@wvbr.com thanks...

Yah Shure Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 11 December 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Yah Shure Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 February 2008 at 8:06pm
	Redeye's follow-up to "Games" also had distinct 45 and LP versions. The LP version of "Redeye Blues" on Warner-distributed One Man's Poison featured an instrumental break from 1:16 to 1:38. The MCA-distributed 45, with the slightly different title of "Red Eye Blues" (Pentagram 206, #78) eliminated the instrumental break, substituting a repeat of a later segment that begins at the 2:05 point with "So I sit and wrack my brain..." This change actually strengthened the record for airplay purposes. While both single and album versions clock in at an identical 2:47, the 45 version of "Red Eye Blues" cannot be recreated from the LP version due to a lingering guitar overdub over the words "Ooo-ooo goldmine" that does not appear over the same words on the 45.

Indy500 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 January 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Indy500 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 January 2011 at 5:39pm
	Here is the lp version for those who haven't heard it. Got lot's of play on KOMA the winter of 70/71 but maybe that's because everyone thought it was a new CSN&Y song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NUf4O7hmCk&feature=related Since it isn't available anywhere else I recreated the 45 version from the Rhino CD by dropping in a section from a 45 and mixing to mono. It will have to do I guess. Edited by Indy500

Indy500 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 January 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Indy500 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 January 2017 at 4:28pm
	Any sightings of Redeye 45 mixes on CD since the last post 6 years ago?

davidclark Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 17 November 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 15	Post Options Post Reply Quote davidclark Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 February 2019 at 9:07pm
	From what I've read, the 45 was issued in stereo. Indy500, in mixing it to mono, is it a mono promo 45 you are making (assuming of course, a mono promo existed...anyone can verify?).
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MMathews Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 18 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote MMathews Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 February 2019 at 3:51pm
	Stock 45s were stereo. I did a clean-up on one of them. I don't know if the promo was stereo but according to Discogs it had the same B-side as the stock 45. MM