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edtop40 
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 Topic: garfunkel all i knowPosted: 20 May 2011 at 10:43am |
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my commercial 45 for the garfunkel song "all i know" issued as columbia 45926 states the run time as 3:48 and does indeed run that length....the db states the 45 runs 3:43 which by my findings is inaccurate....the vinyl 45 is identical to the version on the cd below which i own...
(S) (3:47) Columbia 45008 Garfunkel |
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KentT
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Posted: 21 May 2011 at 6:50pm |
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Another thing to add and know. The promo single had a SQ Quad mix available on the first promo pressing run. The mix didn't fold well to mono and there was later a mono/stereo promo reserviced to radio.
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Posted: 22 May 2011 at 12:28pm |
The stereo/longer mono regular DJ 45 was released at the same time as the SQ quad DJ 45, as was mentioned in the promo note which was stapled onto the 45's sleeve. We actually received the regular DJ 45 first, thereby saving this copy from a less-kind fate. :) Edited by Yah Shure |
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Posted: 23 May 2011 at 9:11am |
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Thanks for posting that note. Neat bit of history.
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Posted: 21 May 2013 at 7:58pm |
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According to notes I have from Jim, his commercial 45 copy of Garfunkel's "All I Know", which is in stereo, has an actual run time of 3:46 just like on the stereo side of the promo 45 (both have a printed time of 3:48). Ed, when you have a chance, could you please double-check your 45 run time to verify if your pressing does indeed differ by a couple of seconds?
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Posted: 21 May 2013 at 8:41pm |
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Although it is already noted in Pat's db, the following fact has not yet been
mentioned in this thread. The mono side of my promo 45 features a different instrumental ending than either the stereo side of the promo 45/my commercial 45/the LP version does. To my knowledge, the mono promo 45 is the only source for this unique ending. Edited by jimct |
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Posted: 22 May 2013 at 3:48am |
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The DJ mono ending does not feature the cross fade from orchestra to piano. Instead it keeps going to a point where the orchestra ends and the piano starts. I don't know if the cross fade was created to shorten the ending or for made for artistic reasons. It also sounds like a dedicated mono mix. Maybe they mixed the mono first and then decided to do the cross fade, and forgot to go back and change the ending for the mono version. Or didn't bother. The cross fade version ended up on the stereo 45, the album, and the quad.
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Posted: 22 May 2013 at 8:36am |
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I always thought records that did this kind of crossfade ending/coda were genius. I loved it on "All I Know" and also on "Could It Be Magic". (Can anyone think of any other top 40 hits that did this?)
Then, of course, there were records like the album version of "Love Me Tomorrow" where the song faded but the orchestra kept going. I believe Chicago did this more than once. (Maybe "Will You Still Love Me" album version?) I'm not referring to songs that fade into other songs (like the ending of Chicago's "Hard to Say I'm Sorry"). But true crossfade ending I think are really nice. |
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Posted: 22 May 2013 at 9:00am |
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To EdisonLite:
While I agree that some crossfaded endings are near-genius, have you heard the original [mono promo] 45 of "All I Know"? That is perfection. The crossfaded [stereo] "All I Know" is not on measure, or on beat, where the original [mono promo] is both (and allows for a much stronger resolve). Andy |
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Posted: 22 May 2013 at 9:46am |
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I do have the mono promo 45, which I bought just to have the unique ending. I'll have to re-listen. The stereo version may not have been perfect on the beat, but I thought it was artfully done and never felt wrong or off to me.
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