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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 118 |
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Instead of wading through 5,486 pages of posts on the Steve Hoffman board to find an answer, I thought I'd just post my question here :)
I noticed Pat has entered the new re-release of 1 into the database, but the songs do not contain any "remixed" comments. Does that mean the stereo mixes contained on this new disc are identical to the standard stereo mixes, or does it simply mean nothing has been added/subtracted, and they are not significant enough differences to warrant a database notation? |
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The Hits Man ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 04 February 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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With 385 pages to wade through, and silly arguments about
Paul playing bass on "Hey Jude", you'd have better luck with the official press release and website. http://www.thebeatles.com/sites/onev2/index.html http://ultimateclassicrock.com/beatles-1-reissue/ |
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 118 |
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Yes, I haven't paid too much attention to this release, since the promo
videos don't interest me. Everything I read suggested that these are newly remixed versions, but Pat doesn't list them as remixes. That's where my confusion comes in. |
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Santi Paradoa ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 February 2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 20 |
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I feel differently about the two video discs. Those are the draw for me. Having all the videos in one place is a great idea for a fan of the Fabs.
As far as the audio disc goes I have only listened to it in my car as I drive to and from work plus once at home. I do not hear anything I didn't hear on the first/original 1 release. However, this one seems louder to my ears. I know it's 2015, but is it too much to ask for a new release to not have added compression? I have not analyzed these with any editing software and don't have the tools to do so, but maybe someone else can confirm if they find excessive clipping on these tracks. I do know the first three songs are mono (She Loves You, Love Me Do and From Me To You). |
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 118 |
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Oh, yes. I definitely understand the draw, and I'm certain it's the main reason most fans would buy it. I'm just not a hardcore Beatles fanatic, and I have no reason to collect the music videos.
Yes, from what I understand, the multi-tracks for those songs no longer exist, so any "new mixes" would have to be done using digital spectral editing. If they are going to the trouble of doing such editing, I doubt they would leave the track in mono, which would mean that these three songs are the same mono versions that have been around for years. The first release of 1, as I understand it, did not contain any new stereo mixes (at least nothing newer than the 1987 stereo remixes). The Beatles website claims that the 2015 release contains all new remixes by Giles Martin and Sam Okell. So far, Pat doesn't mention that any of the tracks are remixed, and it seems like you might agree. |
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The Hits Man ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 04 February 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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From everything i've gathered from a press release, the
songs have been digitally remixed, and Giles Martin has done a considerable amount of "correcting" things. Take that as you will. |
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Santi Paradoa ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 February 2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 20 |
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Okay I took out the first/original release of 1 (from 2000) and listened to it then went back to this 2015 release and starting with track 20 (Lady Madonna) there is some noticeable instrumentation that you can hear on this new release that was either buried in the previous mix or just wasn't there prior. On the earlier tracks (once you get past the three mono mixes) what I hear now is vocals centered or near center instead of the lopsided stereo with the vocals only on one side of the mix. You really have to listen carefully and compare track by track to realize the minor changes.
Keep in mind this is the third time around for the 1 compilation and I only have the first and this third/most recent release. It is possible that the second release was tweaked and one would be able to hear these same subtle differences that I'm picking up on when I compare just these two discs. After buying all the previous remasters and box sets that have been released in the past 20 years I would have never purchased this new audio disc separately, but since it was included in the set with the two video discs it's a nice bonus. As far as Giles and his team remixing the music for this 2015 release I'm inclined to think that it's for the video clips that the sound was improved. There are three different audio mixes for the music videos including a 5.1 surround sound mix. They spent hours improving the quality of the video and audio, so that might be what they "corrected." |
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The Hits Man ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 04 February 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I am certain they remixed the audio-only songs.
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Pat Downey ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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I entered the remix comment as part of the CD title since all songs on the new release of 1 are remixed. This is what you should see in the database: "1" (2015 remix). If this is not appearing please let me know but it is what I see when I view the new entries.
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 118 |
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Yes, I do see it next to the CD title, but we've all been well-trained over the years to never trust what the packaging may claim. Your database and the input from the members on this forum are the only folks I trust as the authority on which versions appear on CD. That said, I do think it would be helpful to note which songs on the 2015 release are remixed. For example, the first three songs are all in mono, and I would presume that there are no differences on these tracks, correct? |
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