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jimct 
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 Topic: Barry Manilow-"Copacabana"Posted: 28 April 2008 at 10:11am |
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Just wanted to add to Pat's existing database notation for this song. The "long version" side of my commercial 45 has a listed time of (5:46), but an actual time of (5:43). FYI, I remember in the mid-to-late 90's, the PD of my station asking me specifically to bring in this "long version" (as you might expect, I was always the station's "auxiliary music library"), as they wanted to "spike it in." I did, but I was certainly a bit taken aback by both his request, and the song's apparent "oldies renaissance!" We CERTAINLY weren't in the business of spinning a whole lot of Barry Manilow tunes at this time - none, in fact!
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Posted: 28 April 2008 at 12:54pm |
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So if I understand this and some previous posts on the subject correctly, all CD copies that run (3:58) are the short side of the 45 and all CD copies that run (5:43) are the long side of the 45. I think we had established a long while back that the (4:04) version is the Even Now vinyl LP version of "Copacabana" (yet CD copies of Even Now all use the long side of the 45 instead).
Am I close? Not that there's anything wrong with spinning a Barry Manilow song or two. :) |
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Posted: 28 April 2008 at 10:53pm |
More than five and a half minutes of Barry Manilow on a Top 40 station in 1997-ish? Wow! That is certainly odd. Edited by aaronk |
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Posted: 29 April 2008 at 7:47am |
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Didn't realize Jim's station was a CHR at that point. I was envisioning a station like WPLJ in New York, which was more Hot AC but had some occasional CHR moments.
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Posted: 29 April 2008 at 9:05am |
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Doug, the station I worked at was an AM/FM, "Mom And Pop" owned combo, back in the day. In the very late 70's, ownership reluctantly decided, at the behest of our AM's Program Director, to flip-flop our "Top 40/CHR" format, from the AM station over to our FM sister station. He kept the existing airstaff (lucky for me!), axing the "elevator music" that had been on the FM (which "Pop" owner loved!!!) in the process. (Ironically, we had the highest ratings in the AM's then-30+ year plus history, during that VERY last book; not very many AM Top 40's ever "went out on top.") Our FM "successor" remains CHR, to this day, through at least 4 ownership changes. So, between both the AM & FM, my station (which I retired from last year) has been playin' the Top 40 hits, non-stop, since 1958 (now in its 50th consecutive year!), and is among the VERY longest "continuous providers" of the Top 40/CHR format in the country.
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Posted: 25 May 2008 at 1:13pm |
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A note: The 3:58 version was on first pressings of "Even Now" and the 45. Later pressings of the single and "Even Now" have the 5:43 Disco version. The original 3:58 version I have never seen on CD anywhere yet.
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Posted: 25 May 2008 at 6:49pm |
The US single had the 3:58 version on one side and the 5:43 version on flip. The 3:58 version was issued on early CD pressings of his "Greatest Hits," and is also available as a download: Copacabana - Dance Vault Mixes Edited by Brian W. |
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Posted: 28 May 2009 at 7:49pm |
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Going through some 1978 tracks, and found an odd thing...
I have Arista/Legacy's The Essential Barry Manilow (2005), and for the most part, I really like the sound. (Mastered by Mark Wilder, who did a lot of the great-sounding CBS/Sony box sets from the early '90s - EWF, Chicago, Aerosmith I think...) The one track that I don't like on this CD is "Copacabana", which is much more compressed/limited than masterings on other CDs. Compare it to GH2, and it sounds like it has the life sucked out of it. Specifically, listen to the cowbells in the break at 3:23 - they sound spacious on GH2, and sound completely lost in the mix on Essential. The reason I revisited this thread is to point out something weird in the Essential mastering of this song. At 5:29, following a short drum fill, there's a drastic change in sound quality. Apparently, the last 16 seconds of the song uses a different tape source than the first 5:29 of the song. This is like the Whitney Houston 45 that grafts on the ending from a different source (don't recall those details off the top of my head.) Anyone else with Essential that wants to comment? |
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Posted: 18 June 2009 at 7:55pm |
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I see a (4:06) version as being available on the Madagascar 2 OST, but I'm not able to determine whether it's the Even Now vinyl LP version. Anyone want to give it a go?
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Posted: 04 September 2009 at 6:30pm |
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Does anyone know if a US 45 of this existed, where the B-side was the Spanish version "En El Copa (Copacabana)? I could have sworn I'd seen and bought such a 45 back in 1978, though I don't have it now.
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