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Scanner ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 August 2019 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Is there a version of this board for country music?
There were many country singles edited, remixed or otherwise changed for radio and/or singles. Take the Judds. "Love Can Build A Bridge" was faded early while "Born To Be Blue" and "Grandpa (Tell Me 'Bout The Good Old Days)" were trimmed. Just like Pop, I have been curious how many of these songs are available in their single form or can be re-created from the album versions. |
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eriejwg ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 41 |
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The single edits of "Love Can Build A Bridge" and "Born To
Be Blue" are on the Judds All-Time Greatest Hits. What was the run time on the 45 for Grandpa? |
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Scanner ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 August 2019 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Funny...it was that CD that prompted my question!
The "Grandpa" 45 is 3:56 vs. 4:12 on the album. There are so many others that I can think of like KT Oslin ("Do Ya")," Ronnie Milsap ("Lost In The Fifties Tonight"), Sylvia ("Like Nothing Ever Happened") and Alabama ("Mountain Music") just to name a few. |
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Stanko ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 24 August 2019 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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RCA did a lot of this in the 1980’s. In addition to the RCA artists you’ve
already mentioned, they always did edits for Earl Thomas Conley, Eddy Raven....most Alabama singles hit radio as an edit, too. Some RCA country promos in that era were even different mixes or re-sings of the album versions. There’s the infamous Dolly Parton “Think About Love” promo that offered heavier drums and added vocal parts. Then there are the two different vocal versions of Alabama’s “Angels Among Us.” Warner Bros also edited songs for radio, too in the 80’s. Edited by Stanko |
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Yah Shure ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 11 December 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Scanner, you mentioned Alabama, and in skimming through my promo 45s, here are a few more with differences:
"My Home's In Alabama": the long side of the MDJ promo 45 is listed at 6:24; the short side, along with the stock 45, lists 3:58. "Roll On (Eighteen Wheeler)": the short version side eliminates the trucker's intro, so the song starts cold. "There's No Way": the spoken "There's no way" at the end is mixed out on the "without spoken part" side, at least on the yellow vinyl promo 45. Don't have the standard black promo 45 to compare. "The Closer You Get" runs 3:35 and 4:32 on the promo 45. "If You're Gonna Play In Texas (You Gotta Have A Fiddle In The Band)": The 3:20 yellow-label promo 45 (NOT the standard promo cream-colored label) I got at KOMA came with this letter inside the sleeve, from RCA's Dallas regional promotion manager: You may have gotten a copy of ALABAMA'S single... "IF YOU'RE GONNA PLAY IN TEXAS" with an "EYES OF TEXAS" intro. This is a copy of the record without that intro. I apologize for any confusion that we may have caused. Guess that was too much Texas for Alabama to handle. ;) The "mistake" release with the rogue intro was labeled "special version" on the tan promo label with dark red print. We received duplicate service from RCA: the standard cream-label/black vinyl promo 45s pressed in Indianapolis, and the promo 45 pressings which I believe were done in Nashville, mastered by Masterphonics (the actual label fonts on these were different than the Indy ones.) The label colors and the label print colors on the Nashville promos varied from release to release, and the vinyl ranged from black to red, light blue, dark blue, yellow, gold, green, orange... you name it. I kept every one of those just because they were so unique. Three non-Alabama hits come immediately to mind: Steve Earle - "Guitar Town": the "Jap guitar" lyric on the LP/CD version was changed to "cheap guitar" on both the promo and stock 45s. George Strait - "Amarillo By Morning": The 45 is a remix, with a different fiddle line during the intro. It starts off with everything pretty much mixed to the center, whereas the stereo separation is evident from the first note on the album mix. On the guitar during the last chorus, the first note starts out in the left channel, then the instrument quickly pans to the center and remains there. On the album version, the guitar stays put in the left channel over that same chorus. I've never found the 45 mix on any George Strait compilation. Gene Watson - "Speak Softly (You're Talking To My Heart)": We played this initially as an album cut, and when the 45 was released, I was really disappointed to find that they'd remixed it and toned it down. The single lacks the same driving beat that the LP version shared with Gene's previous hit, "Fourteen Carat Mind." I believe the album version is available on CD, but I haven't picked it up. The single mix seems to be more readily available digitally. Edited by Yah Shure |
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Yah Shure ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 11 December 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I'm not sure what's "infamous" about it; both the promo and stock 45 featured the Dave Thoener remix, which has been discussed at length on this board.
The real doozy was the 2:55 short side of John Anderson's "I'm Just An Old Chunk Of Coal" promo 45, which managed to throw the beat off at the edit point. Yet that's the side we played, so odd chunk that it is, I'm used to it. |
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Stanko ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 24 August 2019 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Gene Watson - "Speak Softly (You're Talking To My Heart)": We played this initially as an album cut, and when the 45 was released, I was really disappointed to find that they'd remixed it and toned it down. The single lacks the same driving beat that the LP version shared with Gene's previous hit, "Fourteen Carat Mind." I believe the album version is available on CD, but I haven't picked it up. The single mix seems to be more readily available digitally. [/QUOTE] Isn't there a 1 minute difference between those two mixes - with the album version being the shorter of the two? (I need to pull my Gene Watson lp's and 45's to compare....) |
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eriejwg ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 41 |
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I have a noisy 45 dub of "What A Difference You've Made In
My Life" from Ronnie Milsap and the LP version. I think the opening piano on the 45 is mixed differently or is a different take. What is edited out of "Grandpa" from the Judds? I'd like to recreate the 45 version. I think "Lost In The Fifties" may just fade out earlier than the LP version. Correct? |
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Hykker ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 30 October 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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Was this just an album vs single version issue, or were the promos significantly different than commercial 45s too? I don't recall seeing many country singles at record stores around here (New England). Maybe different in other regions. |
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Scanner ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 August 2019 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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If I recall correctly, the humming portion of "Grandpa"
at the end of the song was shortened. As I read through these replies, I did not realize most of the edits/remixes I recollected were from RCA artists! Dolly's "Old Flames Can't Hold A Candle To You" is yet another. I knew the version on her 1982 "Greatest Hits" album from what I heard on the radio. Was I surprised when I heard the version on her "Essential" compilation! I was never able to determine which version was featured where. |
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