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Topic: Country Single Edits/Mixes
Posted By: Scanner
Subject: Country Single Edits/Mixes
Date Posted: 15 January 2020 at 12:10pm
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Is there a version of this board for country music?
There were many country singles edited, remixed or otherwise changed for radio and/or singles. Take the Judds. "Love Can Build A Bridge" was faded early while "Born To Be Blue" and "Grandpa (Tell Me 'Bout The Good Old Days)" were trimmed. Just like Pop, I have been curious how many of these songs are available in their single form or can be re-created from the album versions. |
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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 15 January 2020 at 12:41pm
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The single edits of "Love Can Build A Bridge" and "Born To
Be Blue" are on the Judds All-Time Greatest Hits. What was the run time on the 45 for Grandpa? ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: Scanner
Date Posted: 15 January 2020 at 1:24pm
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Funny...it was that CD that prompted my question!
The "Grandpa" 45 is 3:56 vs. 4:12 on the album. There are so many others that I can think of like KT Oslin ("Do Ya")," Ronnie Milsap ("Lost In The Fifties Tonight"), Sylvia ("Like Nothing Ever Happened") and Alabama ("Mountain Music") just to name a few. |
Posted By: Stanko
Date Posted: 15 January 2020 at 7:07pm
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RCA did a lot of this in the 1980’s. In addition to the RCA artists you’ve
already mentioned, they always did edits for Earl Thomas Conley, Eddy Raven....most Alabama singles hit radio as an edit, too. Some RCA country promos in that era were even different mixes or re-sings of the album versions. There’s the infamous Dolly Parton “Think About Love” promo that offered heavier drums and added vocal parts. Then there are the two different vocal versions of Alabama’s “Angels Among Us.” Warner Bros also edited songs for radio, too in the 80’s. |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 15 January 2020 at 7:33pm
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Scanner, you mentioned Alabama, and in skimming through my promo 45s, here are a few more with differences:
"My Home's In Alabama": the long side of the MDJ promo 45 is listed at 6:24; the short side, along with the stock 45, lists 3:58. "Roll On (Eighteen Wheeler)": the short version side eliminates the trucker's intro, so the song starts cold. "There's No Way": the spoken "There's no way" at the end is mixed out on the "without spoken part" side, at least on the yellow vinyl promo 45. Don't have the standard black promo 45 to compare. "The Closer You Get" runs 3:35 and 4:32 on the promo 45. "If You're Gonna Play In Texas (You Gotta Have A Fiddle In The Band)": The 3:20 yellow-label promo 45 (NOT the standard promo cream-colored label) I got at KOMA came with this letter inside the sleeve, from RCA's Dallas regional promotion manager: You may have gotten a copy of ALABAMA'S single... "IF YOU'RE GONNA PLAY IN TEXAS" with an "EYES OF TEXAS" intro. This is a copy of the record without that intro. I apologize for any confusion that we may have caused. Guess that was too much Texas for Alabama to handle. ;) The "mistake" release with the rogue intro was labeled "special version" on the tan promo label with dark red print. We received duplicate service from RCA: the standard cream-label/black vinyl promo 45s pressed in Indianapolis, and the promo 45 pressings which I believe were done in Nashville, mastered by Masterphonics (the actual label fonts on these were different than the Indy ones.) The label colors and the label print colors on the Nashville promos varied from release to release, and the vinyl ranged from black to red, light blue, dark blue, yellow, gold, green, orange... you name it. I kept every one of those just because they were so unique. Three non-Alabama hits come immediately to mind: Steve Earle - "Guitar Town": the "Jap guitar" lyric on the LP/CD version was changed to "cheap guitar" on both the promo and stock 45s. George Strait - "Amarillo By Morning": The 45 is a remix, with a different fiddle line during the intro. It starts off with everything pretty much mixed to the center, whereas the stereo separation is evident from the first note on the album mix. On the guitar during the last chorus, the first note starts out in the left channel, then the instrument quickly pans to the center and remains there. On the album version, the guitar stays put in the left channel over that same chorus. I've never found the 45 mix on any George Strait compilation. Gene Watson - "Speak Softly (You're Talking To My Heart)": We played this initially as an album cut, and when the 45 was released, I was really disappointed to find that they'd remixed it and toned it down. The single lacks the same driving beat that the LP version shared with Gene's previous hit, "Fourteen Carat Mind." I believe the album version is available on CD, but I haven't picked it up. The single mix seems to be more readily available digitally. |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 15 January 2020 at 7:44pm
I'm not sure what's "infamous" about it; both the promo and stock 45 featured the Dave Thoener remix, which has been discussed at length on this board.
The real doozy was the 2:55 short side of John Anderson's "I'm Just An Old Chunk Of Coal" promo 45, which managed to throw the beat off at the edit point. Yet that's the side we played, so odd chunk that it is, I'm used to it. |
Stanko wrote:Posted By: Stanko
Date Posted: 16 January 2020 at 7:36am
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Gene Watson - "Speak Softly (You're Talking To My Heart)": We played this initially as an album cut, and when the 45 was released, I was really disappointed to find that they'd remixed it and toned it down. The single lacks the same driving beat that the LP version shared with Gene's previous hit, "Fourteen Carat Mind." I believe the album version is available on CD, but I haven't picked it up. The single mix seems to be more readily available digitally. [/QUOTE] Isn't there a 1 minute difference between those two mixes - with the album version being the shorter of the two? (I need to pull my Gene Watson lp's and 45's to compare....) |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 16 January 2020 at 12:11pm
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I have a noisy 45 dub of "What A Difference You've Made In
My Life" from Ronnie Milsap and the LP version. I think the opening piano on the 45 is mixed differently or is a different take. What is edited out of "Grandpa" from the Judds? I'd like to recreate the 45 version. I think "Lost In The Fifties" may just fade out earlier than the LP version. Correct? ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 16 January 2020 at 1:10pm
Was this just an album vs single version issue, or were the promos significantly different than commercial 45s too? I don't recall seeing many country singles at record stores around here (New England). Maybe different in other regions. |
Posted By: Scanner
Date Posted: 16 January 2020 at 2:01pm
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If I recall correctly, the humming portion of "Grandpa"
at the end of the song was shortened. As I read through these replies, I did not realize most of the edits/remixes I recollected were from RCA artists! Dolly's "Old Flames Can't Hold A Candle To You" is yet another. I knew the version on her 1982 "Greatest Hits" album from what I heard on the radio. Was I surprised when I heard the version on her "Essential" compilation! I was never able to determine which version was featured where. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 17 January 2020 at 5:33pm
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Since it was mentioned here, does anyone have fade points
for the song from the Judds, "Grandpa..." Also, is Ronnie Milsap an early fade or edit, and if one of those, fade or edit points? ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 18 January 2020 at 1:51am
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Oddly, I just discovered "Amarillo By Morning" this summer, at a
cowboy/country karaoke weekend jaunt! I like the song, so I asked the singer who did it, etc. Didn't know there was a single mix. Anyone have the 45? Fact check: originally recorded by its co-writer Terry Stafford on Atlantic Country 4006 (#31/1973) ------------- dc1 |
Posted By: Kiefer2
Date Posted: 19 January 2020 at 9:43am
Are there any other Sylvia edits/early fades that you know of? I saw promos for LNEH on Discogs and just assumed they were mistimed since it's only a 10 second diff, but I see it is an edit. I notice now that "Sweet Yesterday" is also listed as a shorter time than the album version. Are there any others that you know of? Thanks-I'm a huge Sylvia fan |
Posted By: Scanner
Date Posted: 19 January 2020 at 5:13pm
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Sorry, that's the only Sylvia edit I know of. I don't
recall hearing another version of "Sweet Yesterday." BTW - did Sylvia ever release "Never My Love" as the second single from her "Greatest Hits" album? I have never seen a 45 or any mention in the trades (Billboard, Cashbox, R&R), but thought that song would/should have been a big crossover hit for her. |
Posted By: Scanner
Date Posted: 29 January 2020 at 12:17pm
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A few more...RCA artists again!
* Clint Black - "We Tell Ourselves", "Still Holding On", "Been There" * Restless Heart - "I'll Still Be Lovin' You", "Bluest Eyes In Texas", "Fast Movin' Train" |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 29 January 2020 at 3:28pm
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I have a number of other Clint Black songs that were
edited for radio: Like The Rain Nothin' But The Tail Lights State Of Mind When I Said I Do ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 29 January 2020 at 3:29pm
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Do you know the edit points for "We Tell Ourselves" from
Clint Black? And, repeating my post from earlier in the thread... Does anyone have the fade points for the song from the Judds, "Grandpa..." Also, is Ronnie Milsap an early fade or edit, and if one of those, fade or edit points? ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: Scanner
Date Posted: 29 January 2020 at 4:48pm
| I think "We Tell Ourselves" was just an early fade. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 30 January 2020 at 1:40pm
Do you have starting and ending fade points? ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 03 February 2020 at 3:30pm
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This post almost deserves a whole website and database dedicated to country top 40 hits. Since that isn't gonna happen ...
Can anyone tell me if they know of any single mixes/edits of top 40 country hits for any of the crossover artists below. Let's exclude any songs already covered above, or any top 40 pop hits they had because those are already in the database. Dolly Parton (re: the aforementioned "Think About Love" - I'm not sure why someone described the single mix as infamous but maybe because it never appeared on CD, yet an alternate mix did!) Ronnie Milsap Crystal Gayle Anne Murray Sylvia Kenny Rogers Rosanne Cash John Denver Exile Lee Greenwood Barbra Mandrell (& Louise Mandrell) Juice Newton Eddie Rabbitt |
Posted By: Steve Carras
Date Posted: 11 February 2020 at 9:29am
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any 70s examples or 60s? I can think of some with John
enver form the 70s, both #1s! ------------- You know you're really older when you think that younger singer Jesse McCartney's related in anyway to former Beatle Paul McCartney. |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 11 February 2020 at 6:09pm
I know there were edits for "Sunshine On My Shoulders", "Thank God I'm A Country Boy", and I think for "My Sweet Lady" and "Sweet Surrender". |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 11 February 2020 at 7:37pm
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John's "Fly Away" was also edited on the 45. ------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |
Posted By: vanmeter
Date Posted: 12 February 2020 at 7:55am
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I'm very frankly going from memory but as I recall there are a couple of Buck Owens 45s (I want to say "Above and Beyond" and "How Long Will My Baby Be Gone") that are either different takes or have overdubs not on the usual stereo versions.
Porter Wagoner's "Julie" on 45 is a completely different take and arrangement than the LP (one is a waltz, the other 4/4 time). George Jones' "A Good Year For the Roses" is also a different take and slightly different arrangement than the stereo version that's usually found on CDs. |
Posted By: Scanner
Date Posted: 12 February 2020 at 8:27am
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Two of Olivia Newton-John's crossover singles were
edited. "Don't Stop Believin'" (# 33 Pop, # 14 Country) was faded early and the intro, bridge and ending of "Every Face Tells A Story" (# 55 Pop, # 21 Country) were edited/faded from the album version. Crystal Gayle's "Ready For The Times To Get Better" single was re-recorded from the version originally included on her "Crystal" album. (I always wondered why her label chose that as her follow-up to "Don't It Make My Brown Eyes Blue" instead of selecting another track from her "We Must Believe In Magic" album which was reportedly the first country album by a woman to be certified platinum.) |
Posted By: Scanner
Date Posted: 15 February 2020 at 6:42pm
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Just recalled Crystal Gayle's "Livin' In These Troubled
Times" (#9 Country) was remixed for radio - new instrumentation that lengthened the song ten seconds. (How unusual for the single version to be longer than the album version!) |
Posted By: LunarLaugh
Date Posted: 16 February 2020 at 1:19pm
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Vince Gill's hit version of "Never Knew Lonely" on MCA
(he had recorded an earlier non-hit version for his previous label, RCA) was released as a single with a shorter solo break and with pedal steel guitar replacing the second half of Vince's guitar solo as heard on the longer LP version. This edit was also used in the song's music video. This single mix with the pedal steel turned up on Vince's 1995 hits compilation, Souvenirs. ------------- https://thelunarlaugh.bandcamp.com/ - Listen to The Lunar Laugh! |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 19 February 2020 at 7:43pm
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When I read the title of this thread, I immediately thought of "Better Man" by Clint Black on RCA. The final chorus is halved.
Dolly Parton's 9 to 5 is given different improvisations on the radio version. Also the Charlie Daniels Band "Devil Went Down to Georgia" is censored on the radio version to "son of a gun" ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 19 February 2020 at 8:10pm
This is the first I've heard of a 45/LP (or promo/stock) difference for "9 To 5." Not that I don't trust you, Jody, but is there anyone who can corroborate this? ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 19 February 2020 at 10:20pm
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I'm not sure about any difference in the vocals, but there are some CDs with a different mix. Pat labels them ":14 longer" but they truly do have a different mix. Ron notes in his files that it first appeared on "Ultimate," so it could be a CD-era remix. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: Scanner
Date Posted: 10 March 2020 at 4:59pm
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Singles by Reba McEntire (back when she had a last
name!) were also edited ("For My Broken Heart," "Is There Life Out There") or remixed ("Rumour Has It," "I'm A Survivor"). |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 10 March 2020 at 6:42pm
Listen to the video version (which is what I'm most familiar with from when the song was on the radio during its chart run). At 2:20, a backup singer hollers out a sustained holler. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbxUSsFXYo4 - Video Version Now listen to this longer version (the ending is different) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4OzdyxbOuU - Longer Version ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 10 March 2020 at 9:24pm
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Rather than continuing to mention the differences between
the radio/single versions and the LP versions, does anyone have digital sources for the radio/single versions or actually editing instructions? I carry quite a bit of Country in my digital music library for my weddings and events and would like to have the proper single versions vs. the LP versions. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 10 March 2020 at 9:28pm
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For example, I just found the single version of "Is There
Life Out There" on Reba's Greatest Hits, Volume Two. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 10 March 2020 at 9:57pm
Jody, do you know where the edit is? TM lists the time as 2:46. I'd also like to know how to recreate the shorter version of We Tell Ourselves plus the other unanswered questions I have in this thread, lol. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 10 March 2020 at 10:11pm
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I found a 45 of "A Better Man" on YouTube.To create the
single version, remove 2:39.900 - 2:51.699 of the LP version. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 11 March 2020 at 7:31am
What he said :) ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 19 June 2020 at 8:02pm
This song is a massive favorite in Texas. I get asked to play it regularly at weddings where the guests are into country dancing. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: Bellenger1981
Date Posted: 20 June 2020 at 11:55am
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Absolutely, Aaron. My brother lived in Texas for a
number of years, and "Amarillo by Morning" became one of his favorite songs. He would love to hear the 45 mix! Anyone have it? ------------- Jason Bellenger Byron Center, Michigan, USA |
Posted By: cmmmbase
Date Posted: 20 June 2020 at 4:09pm
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I've got the 45...
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Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 21 June 2020 at 3:57am
I just have the promo 45 of this, which set of lyrics is on commercial singles? |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 21 June 2020 at 4:34am
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The commercial 45 has the "son of a gun" lyric right before the three minute mark. It's the LP that has the "son of a bitch" lyric (for the Charlie Daniels Band's "The Devil Went Down To Georgia"). ------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |
Posted By: AdvprosD
Date Posted: 10 September 2020 at 7:41pm
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I actually have a lot more Country music than I would have liked to admit. Especially, thirty years ago. Doing mobile parties did help me round out my contemporary, as well as classic country knowledge.
I only learned a few years back that Eddie Rabbitt had passed in a similar manner as the recent Chadwick Boseman, of Black Panther. Today, I was yet again working in my basement and had a mix playing of just about everything I have ripped to mp3. I noticed that the song "Drivin' My Life Away" by Eddie Rabbit sounded a bit different. If any of the country folks have a history of this song and possibly any version data, I'd sure like to know about it. To me, the version I had on sounded like it had a lot less reverb in the vocal track. I would have to listen to it again to be sure. Also, there seemed to be a number of differences in inflection as well. I'm still trying my best to keep focused on getting these CDs of mine onto shelves and out of box storage. So, if I happen to find the version, or versions I'll report back. Of course, if anyone has the information handy, I'll be back to read about it. At least I know I have CD sources to compare all my possible versions. ------------- <Dave> Someone please tell I-Heart Radio that St. Louis is not known as The Loo! |
Posted By: davidlg1971
Date Posted: 10 September 2020 at 11:56pm
10 years ago I bought Eddie Rabbitt's "Number One Hits" compilation - great sound. I compared the song "Step By Step" to a prior copy of the track I had; the older one sounded fuller, livelier. Turns out it was from a 1990 Greatest Hits CD, which was mostly re-recordings mixed with a few recent tunes: https://www.discogs.com/Eddie-Rabbitt-Ten-Years-Of- Greatest-Hits/release/13697430 It's possible your alternate "Drivin' My Life Away" originates from that CD too. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 29 June 2023 at 7:31am
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Bumping up for Robert. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: AdvprosD
Date Posted: 17 July 2023 at 7:58pm
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I am still trying to find my Eddie Rabbitt CD with all the re-recordings. Sooner or later, I'm bound to find it for comparisons.
As for country that seems to be played at weddings, I remember never being able to scoot until I played Kenny Rogers "Lucille." Not country, but the Gloria Gaynor "I Will Survive" was also just as popular as the Electric Slide. People pick odd stuff for weddings. ------------- <Dave> Someone please tell I-Heart Radio that St. Louis is not known as The Loo! |
Posted By: CountryPD
Date Posted: 31 July 2023 at 10:47am
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Longtime reader that just registered to post in this forum. I’ve
gotten a LOT of great music info from this site over the years and have great respect and admiration for the experts and collectors that share their vast knowledge here. Although I do enjoy older pop/Top 40 music too I’m primarily a lifelong fan of country music. 40+ years in country radio both on- air and as a program director. Very familiar with 20th century country hits and have a huge personal library of country 45’s, LP’s & CD’s. Many radio promo 45’s, CD singles & compilations are in my collection so hopefully I can answer some of the questions concerning country single versions & radio edits as well as their CD availability. There were many country single edits & remixes especially during the 1980’s & 90’s. I’m still discovering some of them to this day as my station played the 45’s on the radio (or dubbed them to cartridge tapes) so I did not do an A/B comparison to the album version for every song. When CD singles became pervasive, we played those until we transitioned to a digital system and played all music from a hard drive. Looking forward to participating in the conversation. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 31 July 2023 at 1:21pm
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Thanks Ken, for your offer to us. So are so many '80s and late '70s singles I
have on CD, but I have no idea if there would single mixes/edits or not. So I wouldn't know where to begin to ask you questions. Have you made a database or listing of country songs that do have a single mix? If you've already done the data, that might be easier than me listing off a bunch of songs and asking if they've had dedicated single mixes. |
Posted By: CountryPD
Date Posted: 02 August 2023 at 8:34am
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Sorry I don't have a database to share but I'll do my best to
answer posts here. I'm adding country hits to my hard-drive library from CD & vinyl dubs so as I encounter single edits & remixes I'll post that info in this thread.. To follow up on a song mentioned early in this thread: Amarillo By Morning - George Strait [1983 / #4] - the alternate single mix was issued on the 1992 CD "The Early 80's - Pure Gold" volume of the Time/Life Contemporary Country series [CCD-09] I consulted that Time/Life series back in the 90's and furnished reference tape dubs of the 45's for comparison. Time/Life requested the single master tapes from the licensing labels. They were successful in obtaining them in most cases. Other single versions on that CD are: I Ain't Living Long Like This - Waylon Jennings [1980 - #1] - 3:34 edit - eliminates long instrumental ending from 5:01 LP version The Closer You Get - Alabama [1983 - #1] - 3:35 single edit - this single version is also available on several Alabama RCA hit comps Elvira - Oak Ridge Boys [1981 - #1] - 2:36 single edit |
Posted By: CountryPD
Date Posted: 02 August 2023 at 9:15am
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Clint Black single hit versions that differ from LP versions
List of singles that charted significantly - does not include every edited Clint Black single. Single time is followed by LP time Better Man [1989/#1] - 2:52/3:03 NOTE: Promo single was titled Better Man. Stock 45 and LP version added "A" to the title - A Better Man. We Tell Ourselves [1992/#2] - 3:37/4:38 State Of Mind [1994/#2] - 2:43/3:54 A Good Run Of Bad Luck [1994/#1] - 2:42/2:42 - sound effects deleted from single Wherever You Go [1995/#3] - 3:49/4:35 Like The Rain [1996/#1] - 3:30/4:25 Half Way Up [1997/#6] - 3:35/3:58 Nothin' But The Taillights [1998/#1] - 3:47/3:50 - sound effects on intro deleted from single. NOTE: time listed on the vinyl 45 & CD single incorrectly list 3:25. Actual time is 3:47. The Shoes You're Wearing [1998/#1] - 3:30/3:53 When I Said I Do (with Lisa Hartman Black) [1999/#1] - 4:05/4:29 Been There (with Steve Wariner) [2000/#5] - Radio edit 3:47/5:27 NOTE: Radio edit was released on the Steve Wariner Capitol Records Nashville album "Faith In You." |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 02 August 2023 at 10:13am
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Keep the country singles/mix differences coming and if any
of the edits are in their 45 versions on CD. On the Time-Life collection, is Old Hippie the 45 version? ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 02 August 2023 at 10:17am
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Nothing But The Taillights can't be edited down to the 45
version as the sound effects bleed over the intro on the LP version. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 02 August 2023 at 10:24am
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When I Said I Do removes from 0.00-23.643 or so of the
intro to create the single edit. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 02 August 2023 at 12:49pm
Thanks. I'll probably put up a list here (or maybe in parts), as I have no idea if single mixes/edits were put out. |
Posted By: CountryPD
Date Posted: 02 August 2023 at 1:07pm
No it's the LP version. Time/Life requested the single version with the "just too damn old" lyric but MCA could not locate the tape in their vaults so the album version was used. To this day the single version has never shown up on a Bellamy Bros. hits collection or on an MCA various artists compilation. Our speculation at the time was that the single tape was misfiled or lost. But since the 2008 Universal vault fire it's likely gone forever. |
Posted By: CountryPD
Date Posted: 03 August 2023 at 10:06am
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Joe Diffie Epic single hit versions that differ from LP versions
List of singles that charted significantly - does not include every edited Joe Diffie single. Single time is followed by LP time Honky Tonk Attitude [1993/#5] - 3:26/3:47 - single omits one repeated verse from 2:45-3:04 following the instrumental break Prop Me Up Beside The Jukebox (If I Die) [1993/#3] - 3:16/3:46 - Promo CD single omits one repetition of the chorus from 2:28-2:57. ChicagoBill added that the vinyl 45 single contains the album version so the edit is exclusive to the Promo CD single release. John Deere Green [1994/#5] - 3:36/4:31 - Single is a different recording than the LP version and cannot be re-created by editing. To date the single version has not been issued on a commercial CD. It was released on a vinyl 45 & cassette single and as a promo CD single for radio. Third Rock From The Sun [1994/#1] - 2:45/3:04 - single eliminates spoken words & sound effects on intro & outro of the album version. Single version was issued on the 1998 Joe Diffie Greatest Hits album on Epic Although the listed timings of a few of Diffie's 1994 - 2002 singles vary by just a few seconds from their album counterparts, I could not find any noticeable content differences. Joe re-recorded some of his hits - original versions were released by Sony/BMG - Epic or Monument. During the "Hot Country" era some of Joe's 1990's singles were remixed as extended dance versions for clubs. Some of those CD singles are listed on eBay from time to time. However none were the actual "hits." |
Posted By: ChicagoBill
Date Posted: 03 August 2023 at 10:58am
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Welcome Ken! Just to let you know, my EPIC 45RPM single (34-77071) of 'Prop Me Up...' states
the time as 3:46 and indeed runs that length. I believe only the promo CD single has the 3:16 edit. -Bill. |
Posted By: CountryPD
Date Posted: 03 August 2023 at 1:52pm
Bill - Thanks for the welcome & adding that info. I've updated my post. When record labels began releasing promo CD singles to radio they ceased sending us the vinyl 45's. I recall that some smaller stations without the capability to play CD's on-air still received 45 service for a time. Labels also continued to press a limited number of 45's for jukebox use. So like many other radio folks I no longer had access to 45's by the early 90's. Of course there are several sites online where you can view the 45 labels but without hearing the actual record it's impossible to confirm the content. So thanks for giving us confirmation about that release. One of many instances where the version on the promo single and the stock single differ. |
Posted By: AutumnAarilyn
Date Posted: 03 August 2023 at 3:19pm
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Many of Alabama's singles were edited which included:
1)"My Home's In Alabama" early fade 2)"Dixieland Delight" edits fiddle solo 3)"Mountain Music" edits spoken intro and drum solo 4)"Roll on" edits out truck intro and penultimate chorus 5)"If you're gonna play in Texas" eliminates intro and one chorus before bridge 6)"Take me down" eliminates second chorus and goes into bridge from second verse 7)"Closer you get" eliminates a verse 8)"Why lady why" has a minute shaved off at a glance 9)"She and I" on the album versions from Greatest hits 1 has a false fade which isn't present on the 45. There may be more but most are available on For the Record |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 03 August 2023 at 9:41pm
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Thanks everyone! Keep the country single edit instructions
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Posted By: CountryPD
Date Posted: 04 August 2023 at 7:33am
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Suzy Bogguss single hit versions that differ from LP versions
List of singles that charted significantly - does not include every edited Suzy Bogguss single. Single time is followed by LP time Cross My Broken Heart [1989/#14] - 3:48/3:48 NOTE: to clear any confusion this single is NOT an edit. The label on the promo 45 incorrectly lists the time as 3:00. However the actual time is 3:48 - the same as the stock 45 and the original LP version. The version on her 1994 Liberty Greatest Hits album has a different EQ and the instrumental fade runs a few seconds longer. Letting Go [1992/#6] - 3:52/4:31 - single is an earlier fade of the album version Hey Cinderella [1994/#5] - 3:32/4:06 - single is an earlier fade of the album version |
Posted By: CountryPD
Date Posted: 05 August 2023 at 12:52pm
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Johnny Lee - Lookin' For Love [1980/#1]
Thread for the discussion of the single version is here: http://www.top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp? TID=3741&PN=1 |
Posted By: davidlg1971
Date Posted: 10 August 2023 at 9:45am
So I picked up the 1990 Eddie Rabbit compilation https://www.discogs.com/release/13697430-Eddie-Rabbitt-Ten-Years-Of-Greatest-Hits - Ten Years Of Greatest Hits , which features re-recordings of his biggest hits. Those versions could not be mistaken for the originals - they sound like quickly-made knock-offs, and the overall sound is digital, thin and tinny. So I checked out https://www.discogs.com/master/1718382-Eddie-Rabbitt-Beatin-The-Odds - Beatin' The Odds from 1997, which he made just after his cancer went into remission. Turns out these were the remakes I had, and they sound very close to the originals. You can hear the 1997 version of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njGffhhaOcs&list=OLAK5uy_nBUydgiFRdwOATVt09GW1qLW3olOINEHk - Drivin' My Life Away on Youtube . Unfortunately he died shortly after that album was released, but the album's tracks are available on all sorts of digital compilations - Spotify, Qobuz, etc. Hope that helps! |
Posted By: CountryPD
Date Posted: 11 August 2023 at 6:17am
To my knowledge the "cheap guitar" single version of Guitar Town is available from just one CD source - a 1993 3-CD promo set The Legacy, The True & The Untamed from MCA Nashville [MCA3P-2771] See it here https://www.discogs.com/release/11864604-Various-The- LegacyTrue-The-Untamed |
Posted By: Scanner
Date Posted: 12 August 2023 at 8:52am
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Two from Crystal Gayle:
* "Ready For The Times To Get Better" - Originally recorded for her 1976 "Crystal" album, the song was rerecorded and released in 1978 as the follow-up to "Don't It Make My Brown Eyes Blue." Gayle re-recorded this again along with several other of her songs for 1993's "Best Always." * "Cry" - The 45 version cut the instrumental bridge and a verse shortening the song by a minute from the album version. Apart from the 45, I do not believe this edit has appeared on any other record. |
Posted By: CountryPD
Date Posted: 12 September 2023 at 5:22am
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Johnny Cash - Folsom Prison Blues [1968/#1]
Thread for the discussion of CD availability of the MONO single version and a radio edit issued as a promo 45 here: http://www.top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp? TID=7635&PN=1 |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 24 September 2023 at 2:33am
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DOLLY PARTON - Two Doors Down
The single is a completely different recording than the album version. It also adds an "oh oh oh" bridge not found on the LP version, and removes Verse 1 of the LP version - which I always found odd since it's a story song. That said, the 45 version is the one most found on CDs. Not only is it on Greatest Hits but it's also on the Here You Come Again CD, even though the vinyl original had the LP version (of course). I recall finding the original album version on some import Dolly Parton CD. But it may be on a US CD. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 24 September 2023 at 2:35am
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DOLLY PARTON - Think About Love
#1 country - yet it's one of her most "pop" songs, up there with "Two Doors Down" and "Here You Come Again". The single version is a unique mix, not released on any CD or digitally. It's only on the 45. There are 2 mixes on CD; one is the album version, the other is an alternate mix which is closer to the single mix ... but not close enough! The single mix really has the punch and added instrumentation not found anywhere else. Does anyone know what other Dolly Parton singles had single versions different from the album version? |
Posted By: CountryPD
Date Posted: 16 October 2023 at 11:04am
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Jimmy Dean - Big Bad John [1961 - #1]
Thread for discussion of title and lyric variations and different releases are here: https://www.top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp? TID=7756&PN=1 |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 03 March 2024 at 5:18pm
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Does anyone have these country hits (original versions) on CD:
Yellow Ribbon - Johnny Carver (aka "Tie a Yellow Ribbon," a top 5 country hit) Save Your Kisses for Me - Margo Smith (a top 10 country hit) -the problem is both songs have re-recordings all over the digital marketplace, and I don't know the originals. So I don't know what the original version sounds like. There's a Varese Sarabande comp with the Margo Smith song (going for very expensive prices) but it's on qobuz & 7 Digital. The label sometimes releases re-recordings, and since I don't have the physical CD to see if the back side says re-recordings (assuming they'd list that), I can't really tell. |
Posted By: ChicagoBill
Date Posted: 04 March 2024 at 11:22am
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Gordon, The Varese Sarabande CD booklet leads me to believe that it is the original recording
from Warner Bros. On the CD it runs 3:05, and my LP runs 3:03. I don't have the 45 RPM single (anymore). -Bill. |
Posted By: ChicagoBill
Date Posted: 04 March 2024 at 11:33am
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And then in a listening comparison of the 2, I find no difference between them as far as mixes
or instrumentation except the CD sounds quite shrill, but maybe my 'highs' are going! -Bill. |
Posted By: Kiefer2
Date Posted: 04 March 2024 at 12:21pm
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...and the intro, bridge and
ending of "Every Face Tells A Story" (# 55 Pop, # 21 Country) were edited/faded from the album version. I don't believe the intro of this ONJ song was edited at all. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 04 March 2024 at 2:41pm
Thanks Bill. I'll buy the Margo Smith flac on qobuz! I hope someone knows if Johnny Carver's "Yellow Ribbon" is available on CD, or even which is the original version vs. re-recorded version |
Posted By: CountryPD
Date Posted: 05 March 2024 at 8:56am
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The Margo Smith CD on Varese contains the original Warner
Brothers recordings. I provided 45 dubs for A/B comparison to Steve Massie who mastered that disc. https://www.discogs.com/release/10041649-Margo-Smith-The- Very-Best-Of-Margo-Smith The only CD that I have seen Johnny Carver's Yellow Ribbon listed on was a foreign Time/Life various artists country CD release. But the asking price was way too high as that was the only track that I did not already have. My guess is that it may have been the original ABC recording but I cannot say for certain. A CD collection of Johnny Carver's ABC & ABC/Dot hits has never been issued. After the 2008 Universal fire that may be impossible. Johnny did re-record his hits and they have been issued on K-Tel & other labels. Here's the original ABC recording on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTjSQr-R1WY |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 05 March 2024 at 3:47pm
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Ken, do you know the name of that foreign Time/Life CD that has Carver's
Yellow Ribbon? Also - What makes you think that it could be the original - when all other CD releases have the re-recording? |
Posted By: CountryPD
Date Posted: 05 March 2024 at 7:26pm
Sorry but I don't recall the title of that Time/Life country disc but I do remember that it was not a domestic release - probably from the U.K. or Australia. It was a volume in one of their country series like "Classic Country." Foreign versions of the Time/Life country series had additional volumes that were not part of the U.S. releases. The Time/Life Country discs have been very reliable for using the original versions of country hits. It's possible a remake could have been used but I believe it's very unlikely. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 05 March 2024 at 9:48pm
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Ken, I checked Discogs and couldn't find any TimeLife CD with this song
unfortunately - just 2 from Denmark on the Elap label. One of those is called "Do You Remember 1973" and I think I remember reading it contained the re- recording. |
Posted By: ChicagoBill
Date Posted: 15 March 2024 at 1:22pm
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Coincidently, I just saw a release on Johnny Carver's 'Tie A Yellow Ribbon....'. It's on Hindsight Records out of upstate
New York. Is this legit? I read on their website that they are delving into classic country after releasing post WW II jazz and big band releases. It almost sounds like they extract the vocals and record new instrumentation. There are a lot of 'Grey-area' companies out there. Has anybody heard of this?? -Bill. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 15 March 2024 at 1:56pm
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There are a lot of re-recordings/CDs of Johnny Carver's "Tie a Yellow Ribbon".
So I don't know about this one. It seems like it might not be the original recording. Does anyone have it? |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 15 March 2024 at 1:57pm
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I thought I read somewhere that there was a single mix of Crystal Gayle's big
country hit "Our Love Is on the Faultline". It obviously isn't in the database. Does anyone know anything about this? And edit of the album version or a new mix? |
Posted By: Scanner
Date Posted: 15 March 2024 at 7:22pm
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I don't think "Faultline" was ever remixed or edited. The
45 length is the same as on the album. BTW - Although it also charted AC (Billboard # 23, R&R # 24), I was always surprised this was not a bigger crossover success. |
Posted By: CountryPD
Date Posted: 16 March 2024 at 9:23am
As Scanner stated in the previous post the single & album release of that song are the same [3:54] and no remix was used. As I recall during Crystal Gayle's tenure with Elektra/Warner Bros. the only single that differed from the album version was Cry. The single was edited to 3:12 from the 4:14 album version. This was referenced in an earlier post in this thread. So far there's no CD issue of that single edit. |
Posted By: vanmeter
Date Posted: 16 April 2024 at 12:23pm
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We actually just switched our online AM-radio-sounding classic country station over to 70s/80s in the last week and I just dubbed the mono side of our "Faultline" promo yesterday - I'll double check but it sounds just like a foldover to me.
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Posted By: vanmeter
Date Posted: 18 April 2024 at 7:23pm
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Just to confirm, the mono side of the promo 45 matches the stereo collapsed to mono. I wonder how many of those country mono/stereo promos might have dedicated mono on them???
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