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    Posted: 11 June 2006 at 10:52am
It's not noted in the database, but my CD of "Home" has 2 versions of "I Believe". The second is a hidden track tagged on to the final track. Does anyone know which version this might be in terms of the notations in the database? There are a variety of listing (LP, 45, remix, alternate radio mix). Can anyone clarify any of the differences? Having the song only on the Home CD, I'm not sure which 2 versions I have (Lp version and on other). Thanks guys.

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I can say for sure that one of the mixes (perhaps the radio mix) censors the "n" word, changing it to "brother." I've never compared the radio mix & alternate radio mix, although I believe (no pun intended) I have them both on TM's library.

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I believe the difference between 'alternate radio mix' & 'radio mix' was the word "brother".

As I recall the originally issued 'radio mix' was uncensored, not for shock value, but for poignance.

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My dj cd single (EMI DPRO 19979) contains the "alternate radio mix" which runs (3:49) but stated as (3:45) and the "alternate original version" which runs (3:49) but stated as (3:45). Both versions use the word "brother".
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Anyone have the promo CD single for "I Believe"? I'm pretty sure it contains all the different mixes and edits listed in budaniel's original post.
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Originally posted by Pat Downey Pat Downey wrote:

My dj cd single (EMI DPRO 19979) contains the "alternate radio mix" which runs (3:49) but stated as (3:45) and the "alternate original version" which runs (3:49) but stated as (3:45). Both versions use the word "brother".
Pat: Stickered to the jewel case of my copy DPRO-19979 is "(Special AC Radio Mix)," even though our pure "Top 40" played the "Alternate Radio Mix" contained on it. We got a 5-track promo CD single in before DPRO-19979 arrived: DPRO-19957:

1-Radio Mix (listed 3:45; actual 3:49)
2-Original Version (listed 3:45; actual 3:49)
3-Alternate Radio Mix (listed 3:45; actual 3:49)*
4-Alternate Original Version (listed 3:45; actual 3:49)*
5-Album Version (listed and actual 4:17)

*Suitable For All Audiences (asterisk and statement is how it actually appears.)

They also had a white block around cuts 3 & 4 to accentuate this point. Cuts 1,2 & 5 use the original lyric; cuts 3 & 4 use "brother." Cuts 3 & 4 on the 5-track promo are the same as cuts 1 & 2 on the 2-track promo.
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wow. so many versions. Thanks Jim. I'll have to listen to the lyrics of that
second "hidden track" on Home to try and narrow it down. I know it's
definitely a remix, but not sure of the lyrics. I'll also have to check the
time index....how I despise "hidden tracks" that are tacked on to other
tracks instead of being isolated.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote budaniel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 June 2006 at 4:28pm
oh. my mistake. it's not a hidden track. it's just a bonus track not listed. when you pop it in itunes, the title comes up as "Lucky 2". The version uses the "n" word just like the LP version, but it's got heavy sweeping orchestration in it. Perhaps this version is the one that was edited down to make one of those radio mixes (with altered lyrics, of course).
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let me put my two cents in here.....i just went back and looked at my notes from reviewing the cassingle version to the version from the cd "home" and here's what we have.....the cassingle runs 4:36 and is identical to the hidden track 12 on the cd "home"....at the 2:45 mark both the hidden track and the cassingle have the "n" word INCLUDED........the only difference is that the hidden track starts off with 3 snare taps while the cassingle version has those edited out.....the desciption on the cassingles sleeve states "original mix" (4:37)......the cassingle also has on the "b" side the "album mix" of the song and it states the run time there is 4:17, although i have not confirmed that......

PAT

you state that the billboard 1994 hits cd has the 45 version......does that include the "n" word on the cd.....if not then it's NOT the correct 45/cassingle version........edtop40

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The Billboard Top Hits Of 1994 does not have the 3 snare taps and does have the "n" word so that is the 45 version, the same as what appears on your cassingle Ed. The track 12 "Home" cd bonus track has the three snare taps at the beginning disqualifying it from being the 45 version and is described I believe in the database as an "alternate version".
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