Smokey Robinson-The Agony And The Ecstasy

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   The database currently states a listed time of (4:15), but an actual time of 

(3:13). But both sides of my promo 45 AND my stock 45 state and actually 

DO run (4:15). Stock deadwax says T54260; then there's a large "smudge" 

I've never seen on deadwax before, which is trying to obscure "63147 - 2AS 

RE-1 1-S-03B". Since the label says this is Tamla T54261F, having one 

number BEFORE that appear in the deadwax is a little weird. My promo's 

stereo promo deadwax says "T54261-63147-2A RE-1 1-S-03A"; mono 

promo deadwax is the same, except for "1-M-03B" at the end. I'm sure you 

do possess a (3:13) length 45, Pat. Just reporting to you what I happen to 

have.  

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jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Smokey Robinson-The Agony And The Ecstasy Posted: 05 July 2006 at 12:55am
	The database currently states a listed time of (4:15), but an actual time of (3:13). But both sides of my promo 45 AND my stock 45 state and actually DO run (4:15). Stock deadwax says T54260; then there's a large "smudge" I've never seen on deadwax before, which is trying to obscure "63147 - 2AS RE-1 1-S-03B". Since the label says this is Tamla T54261F, having one number BEFORE that appear in the deadwax is a little weird. My promo's stereo promo deadwax says "T54261-63147-2A RE-1 1-S-03A"; mono promo deadwax is the same, except for "1-M-03B" at the end. I'm sure you do possess a (3:13) length 45, Pat. Just reporting to you what I happen to have. Edited by jimct

Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 July 2006 at 6:46pm
	Well I don't know about my statement regarding a commercial copy with a stated time of (4:15) but an actual time of (3:13) but I would guess that I found a better quality 45 and threw away the 45 that ran (3:13). But I did come across a dj edit that runs (3:13) that states (3:16) and the matrix number on the stereo side is T54261F 63147-S-03C while the matrix number on the mono side is T54261F 63147-M-03C. I notice Joel Whitburn lists the commercial copy as running (3:13) so maybe Paul Haney can verify the existence of a commercial copy that runs (3:13).

Paul Haney Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 44	Post Options Post Reply Quote Paul Haney Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 July 2006 at 12:50pm
	Pat, our commercial copy states and runs 4:15.

edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 July 2013 at 5:28am
	why do i always have the odd 45!.....my commercial 45 issued as motown 54261 lists on the label a run time of 4:15 but actually runs 3:13...the run out groove info is 'T54261F-63147-S-03D #T4'....so there are surely TWO commercial vinyl versions of this 45 after all! Edited by edtop40
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