Jermaine Jackson - Do What You Do

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   For years, I thought that the version of "Do What You Do" that I have on CD was not the correct version.  The vocals sounded like they were re-cut.  Upon referencing my 8th Edition, I noticed that most CDs actually list "Alternate Take" next to the song.  I finally pulled out my original 45 and compared it to the version on my CD (which is supposedly the alternate take), and low and behold, they are IDENTICAL.

Just to be sure, I checked my friend's copy of the 45, and it is also identical to the version listed as "Alternate Take" in Pat's book.  Even after listening to my original 45, something still sounds different than I remember.  Could it be possible that there are two different 45 pressings of this song?  Is it possible that the version I'm remembering was the one played on the radio and is a different take than my 45?

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aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 165	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Jermaine Jackson - Do What You Do Posted: 01 June 2005 at 11:28am
	For years, I thought that the version of "Do What You Do" that I have on CD was not the correct version. The vocals sounded like they were re-cut. Upon referencing my 8th Edition, I noticed that most CDs actually list "Alternate Take" next to the song. I finally pulled out my original 45 and compared it to the version on my CD (which is supposedly the alternate take), and low and behold, they are IDENTICAL. Just to be sure, I checked my friend's copy of the 45, and it is also identical to the version listed as "Alternate Take" in Pat's book. Even after listening to my original 45, something still sounds different than I remember. Could it be possible that there are two different 45 pressings of this song? Is it possible that the version I'm remembering was the one played on the radio and is a different take than my 45?

Moderator Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 10 July 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Moderator Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 June 2005 at 7:25pm
	OK here is what I have come up with on the "Do What You Do" situation. First, my reference was a dj 45 which stated a running time of 3:58 (actually runs 4:17) and I assumed that this was the same as the commercial 45 since Whitburn listed the running time as 3:58. Now whether this assumption is valid I don't know and can use some help from anyone that does have the commercial copy of this 45. My guess Aaron is that if you A/B'd the commercial 45 and the cd versions that I note "alternate take" then the dj and commercial 45 are not the same. There are a number of edits on the dj 45 like dropping the first :01, shortening the instrumental introduction and shortening the instrumental break near the end of the song. With all that said, the vocal track does appear to be the same as the vocal track that appears on the cd's that currently have a notation of "alternate take" so it looks like I should change the notation to "45 version". My dj copy is just an edit of the commercial 45 if what you say is true Aaron but it is certainly strange that both the dj and commercial 45's state a time of 3:58. Can you give me the exact running time of the commercial 45 and the stated time?
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aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 165	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 June 2005 at 10:19pm
	Sure thing, Pat. But it will take a few days, because I just returned from a trip to Michigan, and that's where my 45 is---not with me in Texas. I'll ask Bud B. if he will pull out his 45 and we'll check it. If my memory serves me right, I believe the commercial 45 has a stated time of 3:58. The actual time matches up with the CD and runs really close to 4:17. The edits you described are the exact same edits on the commercial 45--no rim shot at the beginning; instrumental sections on the intro and toward the end are shortened. There is a CD that you have listed "45 Version but missing some overdubs." I listened to a snippet of "Do What You Do" from this disc on the internet. The vocal track is definitely different; however, this is the one I remember hearing all the time when the song was popular (probably on my local top 40 station). There must be another 45 out there that has this alternate version. Anyone know?

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 June 2005 at 3:56pm
	I'm glad to see Jermaine Jackson's "Do What You Do" being discussed here because I'd been wondering about this so-called alternate take for a while. Aaron says the CD listed in the 10th edition with the "45 version but missing some overdubs" comment is the version he was most familiar with hearing on radio. I'm wondering if there were actually two different DJ 45 copies, as opposed to two different commercial 45 pressings? Edited by Todd Ireland

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 165	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 June 2005 at 10:49am
	Pat, it looks like the commercial 45 is exactly the same as your DJ copy. The label says 3:58 and the actual run time is 4:17. The CD that I A/B'd the 45 with was a CD-R, but it turns out the source of the song on my CD-R was not one of the CDs you have listed with "Alternate Take." However, I have listened to snippets of those CDs, and as far as I can tell, the mix and vocal track on the CDs listing "Alternate Take" is the same mix and vocal track found on the commercial 45. You will have to determine if those CDs have edits matching the 45. But the question still remains: Where did the version currently listed as "45 Version but missing some overdubs" come from? I certainly recall hearing this mix (or at least some mix with that vocal track) back in '85.

Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 June 2005 at 12:33pm
	Does the commercial 45 have the rim shot at the beginning?

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 165	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 June 2005 at 2:16pm
	No, it doesn't.

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	I don't believe I ever summarized my findings on this song so here are my conclusions: The commercial and dj 45's that I have are identical. Neither of these has the opening rimshot heard on all of the cd's that I currently list as "alternate take" and that is why I called them an alternate take but probably should correct that to read "neither the 45 nor LP version". The BMG Special Products 44573 Groove Power is an edit of the LP version. So my conclusion to date is that the 45 version has yet to appear on cd in the U.S.
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aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 165	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 August 2005 at 2:00am
	Aha...so, the 45 and LP versions have different vocal takes. That would explain why I remember hearing the other version on the radio---they were probably playing the LP version! So, I guess by your comment above, the versions listed in the book as "alternate take" with a (4:25) run time are the same mix and vocal take as the 45, but they are not edited correctly. Is that what I'm gathering?

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	Yes, the LP version is a different vocal take and the 45 is remixed. In addition to the rimshot being added to the cd's that run (4:25), the instrumental break is :09 longer on those cd's. The actual 45 running time is (4:17)not (3:58) as stated on the label.
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