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    Posted: 26 January 2010 at 1:57pm
Was this a mono single? My fold-down sounds like crap and all the labels I've found on ebay don't say or in the case of one plug-side promo indicate STEREO.

How about Ohio or other 1970 singles?

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I don't know about the U-S, but my Atlantic single in Canada was mono. Ohio was also mono. However, I don't know if they were fold-downs. I do think they sounded pretty compressed.
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Stock U.S. copies of "Woodstock" and "Ohio" were mono. The DJ 45 of the non-LP "Ohio" was mono/stereo, making it the only source of the stereo studio version until the So Far compilation came along in 1974.

The other two 1970 CSNY singles - "Teach Your Children" and "Our House" - were also mono on U.S. stock copies.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Indy500 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 January 2010 at 4:15pm
And I'm guessing that no CDs domestic or import have mono versions?

Yah Shure, any idea if these were dedicated mono mixes? Certainly 'Ohio' was if it was 4 years before the song showed up in stereo.
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Indy, I've never sat down and compared the stereos and monos to tell if they're dedicated or not. FWIW, all of the initial gold label Atlantic Oldies Series CSNY 45s were also mono.

You misinterpreted what I said about "Ohio." To clarify: The 1970 DJ 45 was mono/stereo, meaning that the song was available in stereo from the very beginning, albeit only on the DJ 45. It took four more years for it to show up commercially for the first time in stereo on So Far.
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Originally posted by Yah Shure Yah Shure wrote:


You misinterpreted what I said about "Ohio." To clarify: The 1970 DJ 45 was mono/stereo, meaning that the song was available in stereo from the very beginning, albeit only on the DJ 45. It took four more years for it to show up commercially for the first time in stereo on So Far.


Not true. It also appeared on the Atlantic compilation album "The Super Hits Vol. 5". Album was copyright 1970, so the song was available in stereo not long after its chart run. This album also contains the promo edit of "Whole Lotta Love" in stereo.



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Thanks for the correction, Steve.
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I recently compared the mono stock 45 "Our House" to the stereo LP version and I couldn't hear anything to determine that it was was a dedicated mix. Sounds like a fold down on that track.
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Bear in mind the So Far version of "Ohio" runs (3:05) and is much slower than the 45 (I do believe the correct 45 speed is available on Neil Young's Decade 2-CD set, although I don't believe it's mono).
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To Hykker:

Yes! I remember buying 'Super Hits Vol. 5' (maybe around Christmas 1970) hoping "Ohio" was in stereo and behold it was! You see, as a ten-year-old, I had never heard it in stereo (only AM mono rockers were in my market); I actually thought it was only recorded quickly in mono because of the rushed topical nature of the song.

To Indy500:

I really don't have any concrete answer to your question, but please remember around 1970 Atlantic had a habit of pressing a "CSG Processed Mono Master" for some of their mono singles if they had no dedicated mono mix & there might be some mono-compatibility issues with a fold-down.

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