Top 40 Music on CD Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > Top 40 Music On Compact Disc > Chat Board
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Country Single Edits/Mixes
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Country Single Edits/Mixes

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  123 9>
Author
Message
Scanner View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 14 August 2019
Status: Offline
Points: 0
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Scanner Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Country Single Edits/Mixes
    Posted: 15 January 2020 at 12:10pm
Is there a version of this board for country music?
There were many country singles edited, remixed or
otherwise changed for radio and/or singles. Take the
Judds. "Love Can Build A Bridge" was faded early while
"Born To Be Blue" and "Grandpa (Tell Me 'Bout The Good
Old Days)" were trimmed. Just like Pop, I have been
curious how many of these songs are available in their
single form or can be re-created from the album
versions.
Back to Top
eriejwg View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan
Avatar

Joined: 10 June 2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 41
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eriejwg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 January 2020 at 12:41pm
The single edits of "Love Can Build A Bridge" and "Born To
Be Blue" are on the Judds All-Time Greatest Hits.

What was the run time on the 45 for Grandpa?
Back to Top
Scanner View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 14 August 2019
Status: Offline
Points: 0
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Scanner Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 January 2020 at 1:24pm
Funny...it was that CD that prompted my question!

The "Grandpa" 45 is 3:56 vs. 4:12 on the album. There
are so many others that I can think of like KT Oslin
("Do Ya")," Ronnie Milsap ("Lost In The Fifties
Tonight"), Sylvia ("Like Nothing Ever Happened") and
Alabama ("Mountain Music") just to name a few.
Back to Top
Stanko View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 24 August 2019
Status: Offline
Points: 0
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Stanko Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 January 2020 at 7:07pm
RCA did a lot of this in the 1980’s. In addition to the RCA artists you’ve
already mentioned, they always did edits for Earl Thomas Conley, Eddy
Raven....most Alabama singles hit radio as an edit, too. Some RCA
country promos in that era were even different mixes or re-sings of the
album versions. There’s the infamous Dolly Parton “Think About Love”
promo that offered heavier drums and added vocal parts. Then there
are the two different vocal versions of Alabama’s “Angels Among Us.”   

Warner Bros also edited songs for radio, too in the 80’s.

Edited by Stanko
Back to Top
Yah Shure View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 11 December 2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 0
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Yah Shure Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 January 2020 at 7:33pm
Scanner, you mentioned Alabama, and in skimming through my promo 45s, here are a few more with differences:

"My Home's In Alabama": the long side of the MDJ promo 45 is listed at 6:24; the short side, along with the stock 45, lists 3:58.

"Roll On (Eighteen Wheeler)": the short version side eliminates the trucker's intro, so the song starts cold.

"There's No Way": the spoken "There's no way" at the end is mixed out on the "without spoken part" side, at least on the yellow vinyl promo 45. Don't have the standard black promo 45 to compare.

"The Closer You Get" runs 3:35 and 4:32 on the promo 45.

"If You're Gonna Play In Texas (You Gotta Have A Fiddle In The Band)": The 3:20 yellow-label promo 45 (NOT the standard promo cream-colored label) I got at KOMA came with this letter inside the sleeve, from RCA's Dallas regional promotion manager:

You may have gotten a copy of ALABAMA'S single... "IF YOU'RE GONNA PLAY IN TEXAS" with an "EYES OF TEXAS" intro. This is a copy of the record without that intro. I apologize for any confusion that we may have caused.

Guess that was too much Texas for Alabama to handle. ;) The "mistake" release with the rogue intro was labeled "special version" on the tan promo label with dark red print. We received duplicate service from RCA: the standard cream-label/black vinyl promo 45s pressed in Indianapolis, and the promo 45 pressings which I believe were done in Nashville, mastered by Masterphonics (the actual label fonts on these were different than the Indy ones.) The label colors and the label print colors on the Nashville promos varied from release to release, and the vinyl ranged from black to red, light blue, dark blue, yellow, gold, green, orange... you name it. I kept every one of those just because they were so unique.

Three non-Alabama hits come immediately to mind:

Steve Earle - "Guitar Town": the "Jap guitar" lyric on the LP/CD version was changed to "cheap guitar" on both the promo and stock 45s.

George Strait - "Amarillo By Morning": The 45 is a remix, with a different fiddle line during the intro. It starts off with everything pretty much mixed to the center, whereas the stereo separation is evident from the first note on the album mix. On the guitar during the last chorus, the first note starts out in the left channel, then the instrument quickly pans to the center and remains there. On the album version, the guitar stays put in the left channel over that same chorus. I've never found the 45 mix on any George Strait compilation.

Gene Watson - "Speak Softly (You're Talking To My Heart)": We played this initially as an album cut, and when the 45 was released, I was really disappointed to find that they'd remixed it and toned it down. The single lacks the same driving beat that the LP version shared with Gene's previous hit, "Fourteen Carat Mind." I believe the album version is available on CD, but I haven't picked it up. The single mix seems to be more readily available digitally.    

Edited by Yah Shure
Back to Top
Yah Shure View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 11 December 2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 0
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Yah Shure Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 January 2020 at 7:44pm
Originally posted by Stanko Stanko wrote:

There’s the infamous Dolly Parton “Think About Love” promo that offered heavier drums and added vocal parts.


I'm not sure what's "infamous" about it; both the promo and stock 45 featured the Dave Thoener remix, which has been discussed at length on this board.

Originally posted by Stanko Stanko wrote:

Warner Bros also edited songs for radio, too in the 80’s.


The real doozy was the 2:55 short side of John Anderson's "I'm Just An Old Chunk Of Coal" promo 45, which managed to throw the beat off at the edit point. Yet that's the side we played, so odd chunk that it is, I'm used to it.
Back to Top
Stanko View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 24 August 2019
Status: Offline
Points: 0
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Stanko Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 January 2020 at 7:36am


Gene Watson - "Speak Softly (You're Talking To My
Heart)"
: We played this initially as an album cut,
and when the 45 was released, I was really
disappointed to find that they'd remixed it and toned
it down. The single lacks the same driving beat that
the LP version shared with Gene's previous hit,
"Fourteen Carat Mind." I believe the album version is
available on CD, but I haven't picked it up. The
single mix seems to be more readily available
digitally.    [/QUOTE]

Isn't there a 1 minute difference between those two
mixes - with the album version being the shorter of
the two? (I need to pull my Gene Watson lp's and 45's
to compare....)
Back to Top
eriejwg View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan
Avatar

Joined: 10 June 2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 41
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eriejwg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 January 2020 at 12:11pm
I have a noisy 45 dub of "What A Difference You've Made In
My Life" from Ronnie Milsap and the LP version. I think
the opening piano on the 45 is mixed differently or is a
different take.

What is edited out of "Grandpa" from the Judds? I'd like
to recreate the 45 version.

I think "Lost In The Fifties" may just fade out earlier
than the LP version. Correct?

Back to Top
Hykker View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 30 October 2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 2
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hykker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 January 2020 at 1:10pm
Originally posted by Stanko Stanko wrote:

Some RCA
country promos in that era were even different mixes or
re-sings of the
album versions. There’s the infamous Dolly Parton “Think
About Love”
promo that offered heavier drums and added vocal parts.

Warner Bros also edited songs for radio, too in the 80’s.


Was this just an album vs single version issue, or were
the promos significantly different than commercial 45s
too?
I don't recall seeing many country singles at record
stores around here (New England). Maybe different in
other regions.
Back to Top
Scanner View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 14 August 2019
Status: Offline
Points: 0
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Scanner Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 January 2020 at 2:01pm
If I recall correctly, the humming portion of "Grandpa"
at the end of the song was shortened.

As I read through these replies, I did not realize most
of the edits/remixes I recollected were from RCA
artists! Dolly's "Old Flames Can't Hold A Candle To
You" is yet another. I knew the version on her 1982
"Greatest Hits" album from what I heard on the radio.
Was I surprised when I heard the version on her
"Essential" compilation! I was never able to determine
which version was featured where.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  123 9>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.07
Copyright ©2001-2024 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.063 seconds.