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   I noticed that the 45 for this song has a listed running time of 4:59. The promo CD Single on Discogs 

(MCA5P-2539) lists the following tracks & times:

1. Hot Mix (5:16)

2. Original Mix (5:02)

3. LP Version (6:26)

Below the listing on Discogs is a notation that Track 1 begins at :12 seconds in. So my question is, is it 

safe to assume that Track 1 is the same as the 45 version, just with 12 seconds of silence tacked on to 

the beginning? The reason I ask is because without the 12 seconds of silence, it would come close to the 

listed run time of 4:59 with about 4-5 seconds of what I assume would be silence at the end of the track. 

And with Track 2 also being close to the 45 run time, I thought there might be a possibility that it could 

be the 45 version. 

Also, does anyone know what version was used on the commercial Cassette Single? 

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thecdguy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 August 2019 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 27	Post Options Post Reply Quote thecdguy Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Elton John - Simple Life Posted: 28 January 2020 at 6:59pm
	I noticed that the 45 for this song has a listed running time of 4:59. The promo CD Single on Discogs (MCA5P-2539) lists the following tracks & times: 1. Hot Mix (5:16) 2. Original Mix (5:02) 3. LP Version (6:26) Below the listing on Discogs is a notation that Track 1 begins at :12 seconds in. So my question is, is it safe to assume that Track 1 is the same as the 45 version, just with 12 seconds of silence tacked on to the beginning? The reason I ask is because without the 12 seconds of silence, it would come close to the listed run time of 4:59 with about 4-5 seconds of what I assume would be silence at the end of the track. And with Track 2 also being close to the 45 run time, I thought there might be a possibility that it could be the 45 version. Also, does anyone know what version was used on the commercial Cassette Single?

ChicagoBill Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 06 November 2019 Location: Utah Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote ChicagoBill Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 January 2020 at 8:47pm
	I don't know if this helps. My vinyl single (MCA 54581) says 4:59 (Hot Mix) and runs precisely 4:58.4, so it doesn't look like it matches up with your track 1. -Bill.

sriv94 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote sriv94 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 January 2020 at 9:25pm
	I would agree with your assessment about Track 1 being the 45 version if you remove the 12 seconds in front. I don't have Track 2 (only Track 1 and the LP version), but I would guess Track 2 is an edit of the LP version mix.
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thecdguy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 August 2019 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 27	Post Options Post Reply Quote thecdguy Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 January 2020 at 9:47am
	Thank you for the responses. I didn't notice the "Hot Mix" notation on the 45 label when I first looked at it, so I think it's safe to assume that Track 1 is indeed the 45 version with 12 seconds of mostly blank space at the beginning of the track. (I say mostly because you can hear a little bit of what I guess is in-studio noise, like a switch or button being turned on). I didn't listen to the full "Original Mix" on Track 2, but it seems to have the same instrumentation on the intro as the Album Mix, so it probably is just a shorter version of the Album Mix. The intro on the "Hot Mix"/Single Version is different.

Paul C Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 23 October 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 30	Post Options Post Reply Quote Paul C Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 February 2020 at 10:37am
	I have the US promo CD single, the US commercial 7-inch single, and the UK commercial CD single. The 7-inch version, indicated as "Hot Mix", is indeed identical to the "Hot Mix" on the promo CD except for the weird 12 seconds of what appear to be faint studio sounds (you can hear some faint voices and what sound to me like cymbal taps). The stated run times on my promo CD are as stated in the database, not as stated above. I timed the actual run time of the "Hot Mix" on the promo CD at 5:11, including the opening studio noises. The true commercial single version running 4:59 appears on the UK commercial CD single, on which it is called "edit".