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    Posted: 18 February 2023 at 1:47pm
Can anybody confirm the actual, total length of the 7" single for Sometimes by Erasure? I'm finding versions on CD from 3:41 to 3:28. 13 seconds seems like more than just "mastering differences!"

The single label says "edit" but is labeled as 3:37... the same length as the source LP label.

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The 7" Version is a slightly different mix. Same structure, but unlike the album version, it begins with what sounds like an exhaled breath but I think is just an echo from something else unheard. It has lots of extra reverb and different stereo placement of instruments, it is pitched down ~1.4% (and sounds kind of bad at this speed), and the fade ends 5½ seconds sooner.

3:37 is the actual duration, assuming the 7" Version on the Hit It. CD (the basis of my description) is the same as on the vinyl 45. On that CD, it has 2 seconds of silence padding it out to 3:39.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eriejwg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 February 2023 at 9:12am
Listening on Qobuz, the 12" version starts with the exhale
and sounds like the 7" version only longer. Perhaps, the
12" could be edited down to the 7" version?
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Nope. It's a different mix, with different stereo (the 7" is quite narrow), and a different breath sound at the start, even. The chorus parts of the 7" add a loud, echo-y tambourine-like sound on top of the snare.
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I've always wondered if the 45 version made it onto CD. Great airplay hit!
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Where was "Sometimes" an airplay hit? I never heard it on the radio where I was. I assume it was a little too, uh, something for the middle-American audience at the time.

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The 45 version is avaialable on the Erasure compilation "Total" (2009).

If you compare it with the "Circus" album version, you can clearly hear the difference (other drum, different synths)

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Paul C Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 February 2023 at 9:29am
I don't know if "Sometimes" is one of them, but bear in
mind that a number of US single versions of Erasure songs
differ from those issued in other countries. Even the US
and Canadian 45s of both "Chains Of Love" and "A Little
Respect" are different.

I assume that all Erasure compilations originate in the UK
and that their references to single versions or mixes are
to the UK singles.
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Originally posted by mjb50 mjb50 wrote:

Where was "Sometimes" an airplay hit? I never heard it on the radio where I was. I assume it was a little too, uh, something for the middle-American audience at the time.


It never charted on the Hot 100. I heard it all the time on radio in NY growing up. That and Oh L'Amour as well. Erasure was huge in the NY market!
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The version of "Sometimes" from Total Pop - The First 40
Hits
is missing the opening breath I heard on a 45 on
YouTube.

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