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    Posted: 27 September 2023 at 8:48pm
One of those weird songs from the charts, back when just about anything was worth tossing up on the wall to see what would stick.

Only a minor detail, but I heard a new intro fade-in on the Album "The Very Best Of Helen Reddy (1993).

A different compilation, "The Woman I Am: The Definitive Collection" seems to have the song the way I remember it, starting with a medium drum beat intro.

Is this a difference worth mentioning? Was the fade-in version used in different regions?

I see the song is in a few threads here, but I didn't see any discussion about the song directly.
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I'd like to see what others have to say about this one. This was one of my favorite songs at the time (I was 8) and I
frankly don't recall ever hearing it fade-in at the beginning like I've heard it on some CD compilations. It's pretty
subtle, but it's there. I'm now wondering where that fade-in originated? I like it, as it actually adds to the drama of
the song.
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It's possible that your local stations just cued further
into the song where the intro is louder.
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I just listened to the song from "Free and Easy" and there
is NO fade in. Everything is at the same volume.

Ignore my comment above above the stations cueing in
further. I didn't read Dave's initial post.
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I wonder if the fade in version started with Greatest Hits
(And More)?

Over on the AnotherProf page on YouTube, the 45 he posted
also has NO fade in. So, Paul, your memory is correct.
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I'm glad this song came up as you're right, I don't
remember a fade-in when it was a current in 1974.
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I got the 45 of this song for Christmas in 1974 when I
was 7. Even back then I can recall there was no fade-in
on it. When I got the "Greatest Hits And More" CD years
ago I was disappointed that it had the fade-in. It kind
of messed up the song for me. The fade-in is also on a
compilation whose title I believe is simply "Helen Reddy"
and is 2 CD's with all 20 of her Hot 100 hits at 10 songs
on each disc.
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Another mystery solved!
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I believe that it first turned up with a fade-in on Greatest Hits (And More) (1987). Too bad, because the sound quality is excellent. (I also recommend the Dr. Hook and Glen Campbell collections with the same title, released around the same time on Capitol.)

The same analog transfer is used on:
  • the cheapie best-of 10 Best Series (1991) - digitally identical
  • Time-Life's AM Gold Vol. 21 1974 (1996) - digitally exactly 1.2 dB louder
  • EMI UK's Time To Remember 1975 (1996) - additionally truncates the fade; avoid
  • Rhino's Billboard Top Soft Rock Hits 1974 (1997) - yes, this Rhino series uses existing analog transfers, much like Hang The DJ
  • Time-Life's 2-CD Singers And Songwriters Vol. 8 Mid-'70s (2001) - digitally exactly 1.2 dB louder
  • Razor & Tie's I Am Woman: The Essential Helen Reddy Collection (1998)
  • EMI UK's The Very Best Of Helen Reddy (1993)
  • TM Century track no. 0013842
These are all the copies I have of the song! They all rely on just one mastering, which just happens to add a fade-in.

I was a little too young to hear this on the radio in 1974, and never realized that the actual hit didn't fade in, but actually started at full volume.

Nice work, everyone!
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Originally posted by thecdguy thecdguy wrote:

I got the 45 of this song for Christmas in 1974 when I
was 7. Even back then I can recall there was no fade-in
on it. When I got the "Greatest Hits And More" CD years
ago I was disappointed that it had the fade-in. It kind
of messed up the song for me. The fade-in is also on a
compilation whose title I believe is simply "Helen Reddy"
and is 2 CD's with all 20 of her Hot 100 hits at 10 songs
on each disc.


Well, it looks like most folks also remember the no-fade-in version like I do. I was maybe 13 or 14 when this dropped, and I learned a new adjective, "Touched" that year.

Another more humorous semi-factoid, "Semi" because I don't really know if this was actually happening in other families at the time, but we often watched all the regular TV shows.
There was a skit on the Carol Burnett in which she would phrase the word "Died" in an exceptionally Low tone. Something like "He Dieuuuuud." We members of the family would
almost always repeat it this way as a fun way to express that lyric in the song. Carol was funny when she said it in this way, and so was my mom.

As for the actual fade intro, I did try to give it a try a few times. Unlike Paul's appeal, I feel it adds almost nothing to the song. Apologies where needed.
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