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Was this from the vinyl or from CD?
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Doug sent me a good section, I presume from CD...perhaps from Abacab, I just pasted it in...

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The section I sent was indeed from the Abacab CD, although there was just an ever-so-slight difference in the mix that made it a little more difficult for me to smooth out the sound. John lowered the volume and made a real nice file out of it.

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To elaborate on Ed's initial comments that started this thread, the actual commercial 45 run time of Genesis' "Abacab" is 3:56, not 3:59 as stated on the record label. (Credit an assist to abagon here as well.)
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Here's what I've been able to discern about the 45 version. First, I have two pressings - one Canadian WLP, and one U.S. stock. The Canadian 45 features the same version as what's used on the Hits CD - LP pitch, and runs 4:11. I presume that is what was used as the international single version. The U.S. version was sped up .8%, and faded earlier - my copy runs 3:57. The U.S. 45 does sound different - maybe a little hotter on Phil's vocal - but I think it's due to a combination of eq and compression, and not necessarily a mix difference.

Believe it or not, the glitch at 3:25 has always been there - it's on the vinyl LP, the 45, and the CD versions I've heard. Up until the Hits CD, it's been virtually undetectable - but once you know where it is, you can absolutely hear it. My educated guess is that there's a splice on the tape at 3:24 right before "he's..". Based on how audible the glitch is on Hits (and that the single version had never appeared digitally until then), I'm guessing the tape had not been played since 1982 and that the splice has broken down over the years, causing the tape to violently jerk at 3:25 on "..where" when it peels off the reel. (And as noted earlier in the thread, the glitch can be removed using a less than :01 second paste from the LP version.)

If there is indeed a tape splice on the single master, however, what I can't explain is why the same glitch is also audible on the LP version in the same spot (again, albeit hardly noticeable, like on the original 45). I have a theory about that as well, but I won't postulate further unless I'm provoked. :)
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Originally posted by vinyljay69 vinyljay69 wrote:

Here's what I've been able to discern about the 45
version. First, I have two pressings - one Canadian WLP, and one U.S. stock.
The Canadian 45 features the same version as what's used on the Hits CD - LP
pitch, and runs 4:11. I presume that is what was used as the international
single version. The U.S. version was sped up .8%, and faded earlier - my copy
runs 3:57. The U.S. 45 does sound different - maybe a little hotter on Phil's
vocal - but I think it's due to a combination of eq and compression, and not
necessarily a mix difference.

Believe it or not, the glitch at 3:25 has always been there - it's on the vinyl LP,
the 45, and the CD versions I've heard. Up until the Hits CD, it's been virtually
undetectable - but once you know where it is, you can absolutely hear it. My
educated guess is that there's a splice on the tape at 3:24 right before "he's..".
Based on how audible the glitch is on Hits (and that the single version had
never appeared digitally until then), I'm guessing the tape had not been played
since 1982 and that the splice has broken down over the years, causing the
tape to violently jerk at 3:25 on "..where" when it peels off the reel. (And as
noted earlier in the thread, the glitch can be removed using a less than :01
second paste from the LP version.)

If there is indeed a tape splice on the single master, however, what I can't
explain is why the same glitch is also audible on the LP version in the same
spot (again, albeit hardly noticeable, like on the original 45). I have a theory
about that as well, but I won't postulate further unless I'm provoked. :)


I'm provoking you :) Please elaborate.
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