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    Posted: 10 February 2006 at 9:33pm
The database indicates that the different versions of Give Me The Night are length differences (LP length, dj 45 length).

However, the actual 45 has some mix differences. The most noticeable is during the acapella break toward the end. The LP version has some instrumentation that is not present in the acapella section on the 45.

The version on the Collection CD (listed as dj 45 length in the database) is an early fade of the LP version.

But the 45 cannot be recreated from the LP version due to the mix differences.
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Great. Another 45 I have to find.
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Roscoe, my dj 45 which does have an RE-1 printed on the label, is not an early fade of the LP version but is an early fade of the commercial 45. You are correct in that the version found on "Collection" is the LP version faded early.
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Originally posted by Roscoe Roscoe wrote:

The database indicates that the different versions of Give Me The Night are length differences (LP length, dj 45 length).

However, the actual 45 has some mix differences. The most noticeable is during the acapella break toward the end. The LP version has some instrumentation that is not present in the acapella section on the 45.

The version on the Collection CD (listed as dj 45 length in the database) is an early fade of the LP version.



But the 45 cannot be recreated from the LP version due to the mix differences.



That is true. It was a common practice of Quincy Jones and engineer Bruce Swedien to do mixes specifically for 45 release. There are a number of Michael Jackson singles that have unique single mixes. This was done to make them sound the best they could on a 7" single and to minimize any cutting problems when they were mastered. The 45 edit of "Give Me The Night" does appear on The Best Of George Benson CD.
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Unless there are two different pressings of the "Best Of" cd (Warner Brothers 46050), the 45 version is not on my copy of the "Best Of" cd. The LP version has an extra guitar mixed in starting at 3:07 that does not appear on the 45. That guitar is present on the "Best Of" cd.
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Has anyone been able to locate this one on an import cd?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aaronk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 November 2006 at 9:28pm
I was just able to hear what the actual 45 sounds like, and the instrumentation at the end is not the only difference. There is also an extra background vocal overdub on the 45 mix. At the acappella break, there's a female background vocal that sings "we can reach the stars..." etc. This vocal overdub plays through the rest of the 45 until it is faded out.

Now, I have this 45 in front of me, and it appears to be a commercial pressing. There are no promo markings anywhere on the label, and it has the b-side "Dinorah, Dinorah." The printed and actual run time is (3:41), so apparently not all commercial copies run (3:52) as the database says.

This label also has "RE-1" printed below the catalog number, which is WBS49505 (YCA 9446 V1S). The runout grove says "WBS-49505 YCA-9446-V1-RE1-S-SR-1 SP 1-2."
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Does anyone own the promo 12" single who can verify if the mix is the same as the LP, or if it is the single mix but longer?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MMathews Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 November 2006 at 8:29pm
Ok
I usually don't chime into these because i've gotten rid of so many of my singles.
But i remember well my commercial 45 of this track did NOT have the extra female vocal dubbed into the a cappela part, however I heard that version on the radio back then.
Always wondered where that other mix came from.I thought it was for radio only.
My single sounded much like an edit of the LP version (but i don't have it now to compare every detail.)
I only know for sure the above mix arronk describes was not on my 45.
So i guess there was more than one version issued?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pat Downey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 November 2006 at 10:25pm
I must assume at this point that there were two commercial 45 pressings of this song. The (3:41) version is not an early fade of the (3:52) 45 pressing. There seem to be horns audible from 3:31 to 3:32 on the (3:52) 45 version that are not audible on the (3:41) version of the 45. Neither of these 45 versions has yet to appear on cd.
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