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MMathews
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Posted: 11 June 2015 at 11:23pm |
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David, I'm going to do a sync check on this 45, I am just
awaiting a good dub of it. I'll post my findings as soon as possible. MM |
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Posted: 12 June 2015 at 2:20am |
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Davidclark, Yes it is the same opening on the UK45 as the one on YouTube.
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Posted: 12 June 2015 at 6:49am |
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MM you da man! thanks.
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MMathews
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Posted: 18 June 2015 at 11:55pm |
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OK
I just finished comparing a dub of a confirmed original Laurie 3284 single with the stereo mix (taken from Rhino's Brit. Invasion Vol 4, but just about any Cd will do.) I have no idea what info was being passed around on the Skyline site years ago, but there is NO difference between the U.S. 45 and the stereo mix. I just folded the stereo mix down, and put it side by side against the Laurie single. They are the same mix, no changes. Laurie didn't even compress it. The are identical. Now, my single has a listed time of (2:22) but actual is (2:21). All the CD versions that run (2:22) are just a tad slower than the 45 but pretty much every copy is within 1 second. Happy to put this issue to bed. I've just emailed Pat an mp3 of my sync-file so he can be confident in my report! MM |
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Posted: 19 June 2015 at 11:00am |
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That's good to know. I took the mono version from The EMI Years 1963-1966, then folded down the opening bongos from a stereo version of the song and tacked them on to recreate the 45 version, which I'm relieved to find out is apparently the actual 45 version.
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MMathews
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Posted: 19 June 2015 at 7:42pm |
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Bitman, later I'll be doing one final sync check and compare the LP mix to the mono UK 45 version to see if there are any differences...David said the drums sound different.
It's quite possible they did a dedicated mono mix for the UK but did not send that to Laurie. I'll post whatever I find here. MM |
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Posted: 21 June 2015 at 4:35pm |
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OK I compared the U.S. 45 + LP version with the mono EMI
Years version and found the latter to be a dedicated mono mix. It also runs a slower pitch than the U.S version. The opening "bongos / drums" - we'll just say "the drum track" - is mixed way out of the intro. So David heard right. There is only a "bleed-thru" of them in the background, and then they are turned up full as soon as he starts singing. The rest of the mix is basically the same, I only detected a slight difference in the reverb. Another minor thing is the vocal track is potted up full during the intro so you hear breath sounds louder where the US version those sounds are present, but much lower in the mix before he starts singing. For bitman: so the version you created by tacking on the drum track intro can't work because the drum part would be missing from :04 - :14. Simply fold down the entire stereo mix and that makes the U.S 45. So it appears from the above research that the EMI Years CD and any others containing this mix can be described as the "UK & Canadian 45 Version" while the rest of the CD's need no description at all. |
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Posted: 23 June 2015 at 6:34pm |
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glad you got to the bottom of this, Markie (and glad we are correct).
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Posted: 27 July 2015 at 1:16pm |
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I am wondering if the original discussion about the
intro being a different vocal take was in reference to the song I'll Be There, where the stereo mix does contain a different vocal take (though the intro vocal to the US 45 version for I'll Be There can be found at the end of the stereo mix of that particular song). |
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Live in stereo.
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