Joe Cocker "With a Little Help"

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   While not charting high enough to make the Top 40 on any chart, I just found a DJ copy which says New Time 3:25. Some of you may have this DJ edit, I just bring it up as I never knew it existed. I didn't time it but it is shorter than the usual version. I just thought I'd share with the group. 

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BillCahill Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote BillCahill Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Joe Cocker "With a Little Help" Posted: 18 October 2007 at 4:20pm
	While not charting high enough to make the Top 40 on any chart, I just found a DJ copy which says New Time 3:25. Some of you may have this DJ edit, I just bring it up as I never knew it existed. I didn't time it but it is shorter than the usual version. I just thought I'd share with the group. Edited by BillCahill

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 17	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 October 2007 at 4:40pm
	Any idea if the 4:55 version can be edited to match the 'new time'? Edited by eriejwg

BillCahill Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote BillCahill Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 October 2007 at 5:18pm
	I'm pretty sure it can.. I will compare them.

BillCahill Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote BillCahill Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 October 2007 at 5:51pm
	If you rip the version from the Ultimate Joe Cocker CD (and I'm assuming any CD source of the song) you only need to make one edit, around 2:28.6 right after the second girl section, "Do you need anybody" cut to the same place at 3:57.6 and you got it. Then just fade to 3:25 (length on the DJ 45 is accurate) So you can make this edit from CD versions. Guess what? I tried to match up the DJ copy with the A&M Forget Me Not reissue 45.. it says 4:55 on it.. WRONG.. it's THIS 3:25 version. So if you have the Forget Me Not reissue 45 you may already have this edit. Bill Edited by BillCahill

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 17	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 October 2007 at 9:33pm
	Thanks, Bill! Edit points were simple and it makes this song a little more bearable at 3:25!

sriv94 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote sriv94 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 October 2007 at 9:49pm
	Isn't there a pitch difference between the commercial 45 and LP?
	Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken.

Bill Cahill Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 27 June 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bill Cahill Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 October 2007 at 10:24pm
	Very slight difference in pitch. My turntable is very accurate but it wasn't worth noting.

PopArchivist Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 30 June 2018 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote PopArchivist Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 October 2023 at 11:05am
	So from what I understand there is the following: A 3:25 mono promo edit. A 4:14 LP version in stereo from 1968 A 5:12 longer version which appears on numerous comps Does anyone know what to call the 5:12 version?
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