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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aaronk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 September 2022 at 11:34am
From info posted by Andy and others, it appears we have the following mixes and edits:

- 7:24 promo 12"
- 3:45 promo 7"
- 4:20 commercial 7"
- 4:22 LP version

Can someone summarize 1) if these are all the same mix but edited down from a longer take, 2) if the commercial 7" version is available on CD or digital in good quality (no noise reduction), and 3) if the promo 7" can be edited down from the LP version and/or the commercial 7". I have not done any A/B comparisons on these myself.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AndrewChouffi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 September 2022 at 9:20am
Summarization for Aaron:

Slight pitch difference, channel-reversal & EQ
notwithstanding, the promo 12" can produce the commercial
7" (& short side promo 12") simply by editing approx.
3min,29.5sec thru 6min,35.3sec out of the promo 12".

Note: what is edited out is mostly redundant as it is
effectively a loop, but there is some unique audio such
as a Liz Mitchell vocal and a piano solo with an off-
measure edit within.

The 3:45 promo 7" is pretty much the LP version with the
first 38.4 sec. intro lopped off.

Please note: I'm only comparing US releases; I am
confident there are myriad other international edits &
versions as this was a worldwide smash. One version I
know of that has leaked onto some CDs is close to the US
commercial single version but with the 2nd half of the
intro edited out.

If anyone wants to add to this overview, please do!

Andy

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AndrewChouffi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 September 2022 at 5:34pm
The version on 'Hard To Find 45s On CD Vol. 8: Seventies
Pop Classics' is the commercial 7", albeit slightly faster
and much crisper than my 45.

I wonder how much different the RE-1 'Remastered Version'
7" sounds? I'm hoping someone out there has a copy for me
to compare.

Andy
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eriejwg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 September 2022 at 8:10am
Earlier in the discussion, Jim (RIP) said the promo 45 did
not match the 4:19 45 version even if you took off the
first 38 seconds. I listened to the 4:19 versions on Qobuz
and they either fade much earlier than the promo 45 or are
edited differently.

I was hoping to create a nice, digital copy of the promo 45
but it sounds as though it can't be done from the 4:19
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AndrewChouffi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 September 2022 at 8:45am
Hi John,

If you can find the LP version from 'Nightflight To
Venus' and lop off the intro, you've essentially got the US
promo 45 edit.

Don't know where you can find it, but it is on Spotify, so
there's probably a digital source somewhere out there.

Keep us posted...

Andy

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eriejwg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 September 2022 at 8:58am
Just listened to the LP version on Qobuz and it fades to
early at the end. The end result would be about 5 seconds
short if the only difference is the intro that's been
removed.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aaronk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 September 2022 at 11:02am
I also listened to the LP version on Spotify, and the fade out lasts until "by the rivers..." On the promo 45 dub I have, I can also hear "of Babylon" but nothing more. At most, the LP version on Spotify is about 1.5 seconds shorter on the fade.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aaronk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 September 2022 at 11:39am
I had the chance to line up the promo 12" and commercial 7" version in the multi-tracker, and while there are segments unique to the promo 12", most of the song matches up with the commercial 7" version, parts of which have been looped. Specifically, the section from 4:06 to 4:24 and 5:29 to 6:35 of the 12" are unique. These sections are not found in the LP version, either.
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