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EdisonLite ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 203 |
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<my point was the actual edit of "ILR&R" was toward the end, so the argument about why shave 10 seconds off that song in relation to Gordon's point about cutting the intro in half doesn't apply (since that's not what they edited). >
I wasn't referring to "I Love Rock'n Roll" in my comment. I was mainly referring to Torcan's last comment: <I'm surprised that so many 45s were just a few seconds shorter than their LP versions, either with an early fade or an edit. (I guess in radio a few seconds matter, right?) > It's true, when an edit is only 8 seconds shorter, you wonder why. But then when you think about it - if, say, the intro is cut in half, you can kind of see why the record company might want to do that. (Although, personally, I like the original, long intro of "All Out Of Love". Maybe because that's the version I first knew.) |
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Grant ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 12 October 2004 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I just look at it differently. I see no distinction between an intro being edited or a fadeout being edited orshortened. It's all done as either for an artistic reason or an functinal reason, or both. Sometimes a single version is more thought out than the LP version.
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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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Actually, Doug, I think "Burning Heart" by Survivor now has that one beaten! As Ed pointed out in another thread, if you were to edit out the first four-tenths of a second at the very beginning of the LP version intro, you essentially get the 45 version! |
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EdisonLite ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 203 |
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This reminds me of "The Other Guy" by Little River Band. The only difference between the two versions is a quick eighth-note pick up on the bass guitar that precedes the downbeat. I can't remember which version has it, though. It could be that the bass note was added to the 45 version, which would be the opposite of the "Burning Heart" scenario. The 45 would be lengthened by about 2/10ths of a second!
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sriv94 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4 |
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You're right, Todd. I completely forgot about Ed's post on that. Edited by sriv94 |
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sriv94 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4 |
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Oh. That's very different. Never mind. :-D |
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Doug
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VWestlife ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 02 April 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6 |
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This 45 of "Burning Heart" doesn't have the first drum hit shaved off... so could the ones which do simply have been a mastering error? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCvFMStf_Mg |
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eriejwg ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 72 |
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The 45 version of "Rainy Day People" is another edit of an
already short song. 5 seconds are removed from 1:52-1:57. |
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Jody Thornton ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 23 May 2008 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 9 |
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What about "One Hundred Ways" by Quincy and Ingram. The LP cut from Duke has a light snare drum hit before the keyboards kick in at the start. It's absent from the 45-rpm disc.
Londonbeat was "Thinkin'About" nixing the three drum taps from the beginning of their 1991 single, so they did so on a radio promo. And Vangelis faded in "Titles" on the second set of two long keyboard notes. |
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Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
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