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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 178 |
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The difference would be at 1:44, before the drum solo starts mid-song.
The true mono 45 version sounds like this: "Goodbyeeeeeee" (music stops, followed by 3 drum beats, then cymbal crash) The stereo version on the Dick Bartley CD is like this: "Goodbyeeeeeee" (music stops, 4 drum beats, then cymbal crash) In other words, on the 45 you hear one more note of the music before it abruptly stops, which is just before the drum solo. Also, there is a little more reverb on the LP version vocals (and overall). Lastly, the Dick Bartley CD has the vocals fading in too early. You can hear "hey, hey, goodbye at 1:48. On the 45, the vocal doesn't start coming back in until 1:51, where you hear the tail end of "byeeeee." The Dick Bartley CD also has the xylophone coming back in at 2:17 (in the left channel), whereas it does not come in until 2:26 on the 45. The bottom line is that the stereo version cannot be used to re-create the mono single. There are just too many differences in the stereo mix that do not match the mono mix. Hopefully that clarifies things. Edited by aaronk |
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jimct ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I have finally acquired a long/short promo 45 for this song. I noticed that the
exact particulars for it had not been previously posted. Confirmed as Fontana 1667, the listed and actual (3:45) side is the same as the stock 45, and says "Mono-Complete Version" on it, despite the fact that the LP version actually runs over 4:00. Deadwax info has a crossed-out, machine-stamped "44192 1", followed by a reversed, handwritten "44292-1-1-1" (the latter matching up with small, # info on the 45 label.) The short version has a listed time of (2:59), an actual time of (3:01), says "Mono-Edited Version", and has handwritten deadwax info of "44358-1-1-1". |
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Tim Brown ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 15 May 2012 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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"There are three edits and an early fade.
The edit points on the actual DJ 45 occur at 1:48, 1:50, and 2:15." Not sure what to edit out at these points, but that's a good start. When you have time, would someone mind sending me an MP3 or a few more instructions? Thank you in advance for any guidance. It would be much appreciated. Tim |
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jimct ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Tim, please check your PM.
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 69 |
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I'll try to untangle the mastering history.
Stereo LP version (4:09) The earliest CD I have with the stereo LP version is DCC Compact Classics' Toga Rock (1987, original pressing of this disc), where it runs 4:06. There's a later pressing of Toga Rock with a copyright date of 1988, which has a differently-EQ'd digital clone of the 1987 mastering, except that it slightly clips the attack of the opening drumbeat, and runs 4:05 because the tail of the fade is two beats shorter than the original 1987 pressing. There's a new analog transfer on PolyGram's 45's On CD Vol. 3 '66-'69 (1988), where it runs 4:05. The same analog transfer is used on:
Mono 45 version (3:45) As Aaron and others noted above, the mono 45 version can't be edited down from the stereo LP version. You can sorta get close on CD, but not quite. Heartland/Warner Special Products' 2-CD Fun Rock (1986) runs almost the correct length at 3:41, but it's in ear-bleeding fake stereo. This one hurts real bad in headphones. PolyTel Canada's 2-CD Ready To Rock (1988) is better, running in true mono, but it runs about five seconds short at 3:36. Stereo 45 version This doesn't exist at all; the 45 was never mixed to stereo. The closest you can get is an incorrect edit of the LP version, which appears on Varese Sarabande's Dick Bartley On The Radio Vol. 3 (1998), where it runs 3:44. Aaron noted one difference at 1:44; there may be others. Mono promo 45 version (2:59) Unless I misunderstood the posts above, Aaron says that the mono promo 45 version can be created from the mono 45 version, with edits at 1:48, 1:50, and 2:15, plus an early fade. My recommendations For the stereo LP version, go with Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 1 (1990), which sounds great and runs out to the full length of the vinyl LP. For the mono 45 version, I guess you can attempt to hunt down PolyTel Canada's 2-CD Ready To Rock (1988), but it's pretty rare. I was lucky enough to get my copy via mail order through Silver Eagle Records, back when they were a functioning mail-order label. |
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There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one Crap From The Past.
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Paul C ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 23 October 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 14 |
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The mono 'single version' appears as a bonus track on
the 2003 reissue of the Na Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Good- Bye album on the UK Repertoire label, licensed from Universal. It runs 3:43. This does not appear to be the CD Fetta referred to in his post from 2012. |
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Brian W. ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 17 |
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I played that for Aaron and he thought it sounded like a vinyl dub. |
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AdvprosD ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 12 June 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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I remember getting one of those either "Ronco" or "K-Tel" V/A albums, and this song was the last track on the side. The only reason I have such a fond memory was because somewhere in the recording process,
the speed of the record master must have been accelerating. I remember playing this for my siblings and noting that the "Na Na Hey Heys were getting slower. They must have been thinking that I was messing with the record player or something because we never really proved the symptom as a fact. Still to this day, I keep listening for a slowdown whenever I hear it on the radio. |
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