CSN&Y -- Woodstock and 1970 45s

AndrewChouffi wrote: around 1970 Atlantic had a habit of pressing a "CSG Processed Mono Master" for some of their mono singles if they had no dedicated mono mix & there might be some mono-compatibility issues with a fold-down.

Andy, that's true for the two 1969 CSN singles ("Marrakesh Express" and "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes".) Even the gold-label Oldies Series reissue (13049) has the "CSG processed mono master" note on the labels of both sides.

The CSNY 45s from 1970 don't have any CSG notation. Neither does the gold-label #13050 reissue of "Teach Your Children"/"Woodstock."

And my apologies again for the earlier error on the Atlantic Super Hits Vol. 5 issue. No station I ever worked at had that volume. I'd forgotten all about that series, and will have to dust off Vol. 3, along with The Super Groups. I don't think I've heard Vanilla Fudge's "Take Me For A Little While" in stereo from beginning to end since I bought that album in the cutouts back in the '70s.

Doug, I'll compare the stereo side of the "Ohio" DJ 45 with the Decade track. I've never owned So Far on either vinyl or CD.

Oh, and as long as Andy brought it up: Has anyone ever experienced any real problems with those mono CSG 45s? I've never noticed anything objectionable with the ones that I have (the CSG mono DJ 45 of Gordon Lightfoot's "Carefree Highway"/"Seven Island Suite" was one I ripped not that long ago and didn't notice anything unfavorable about either side.)

UPDATE: The stereo DJ 45 of "Ohio" clocks in at (2:59), which is two seconds longer than the (2:57) track from Neil Young's Decade CD. They fade at the same point (the CD fade has lots of hum that is absent from the 45) but the CD track runs faster than the stereo DJ 45.

The mono side of this same DJ 45 - a Specialty pressing - is three seconds shorter, at (2:56). The fadeout is a tiny tad quicker than on the stereo side, but the difference is insignificant. Speed differences account for the three-second variation.

Edited by Yah Shure

To KentT:

Free's "All Right Now" commercial single was (awful sounding) CSG STEREO. I believe the promo was straight mono. What version of "All Right Now" was CSG MONO?

Andy

To Hykker:

Thanks for the information!

Andy

The CSG Stereo singles usually had very bad phase issues.
As a result, they weren't fit for broadcast. Free's "All
Right Now" was one of the worst offenders. The DJ Single
had a Mono side as well as the CSG Stereo phasey, mucky
sounding mess. The only place you could find that better
mono mix.