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    Posted: 16 July 2007 at 9:42am
Is the DJ 45 just an early fade of the stock 45 version?
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eriejwg:

Although I don't have the DJ 45 of John Stewart's "Gold", I clearly recall it being an edit of the stock 45 version and not just an early fade.
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Two edits. First one sounds pretty noticable.

Using Class Reunion '79 as a source, the first edit point is 2:14 to 2:44, both places on the word "cause". (works better if you edit on the word "gold" but that's not what they did..) Second edit is 3:22- 3:37. After the little organ swipe on the beat you could imagine "People" coming in, they jump to the "People" at 3:37.
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Oh.. the reason I used Class Reunion 79 is because I don't have a stock copy. Stock 45 may be a slightly hotter mix but the edit points are probably around the same places.
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That's pretty much how I remember the edits, Bill. I used to have a dub of the DJ 45 on cassette tape and I liked the short edit. I always thought it helped tighten up the song nicely.
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Actually, found a mint promo 45 on eBay and dubbed it last week. Should have mentioned it before you guys went to the trouble of finding the edits.

Many thanks though! This place rocks!
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I just created the DJ 45 edit following Bill Cahill's tips. The edits I made came out sounding seamless!

Thanks, Bill!

Anyone out there have more editing tips for creating 45/DJ edits?

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Another Fleetwood Mac-assisted track from the late '70s, joining Walter Egan's "Magnet And Steel", Warren Zevon's "Werewolves Of London", and Kenny Loggins's "Whenever I Call You Friend".

LP and commercial 45 versions (runs 4:22)

The oldest CD I have with "Gold" is Warner Special Products' 2-CD Ultimate Party Album (1992), where it runs 4:20. The same analog transfer is used for Warner Special Products' 2-CD 40 Summer Fun Hits (1993).

Bill Inglot did a new analog transfer for Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 22 (1993), where it runs 4:22. Here, the tail of the fade is a good two seconds longer than the earlier discs, but is truncated before fading to complete silence. This mastering sounds like it uses lower-generation source tapes than the earlier discs. The same analog transfer is used for:
  • Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 34 Late '70s (1993)
  • Time-Life's AM Gold Vol. 26 1979 (1997; digitally identical)
  • Time-Life's 2-CD Singers And Songwriters Vol. 5 1978-1979 (2000; differently EQ'd digital clone)
  • Time-Life's 2-CD Seventies Music Explosion Vol. 2 Escape (2005; differently EQ'd digital clone)
Promo 45 edit (runs 3:37)

This version has yet to appear on CD, as far as I know.

Here are editing instructions for recreating the promo 45 edit from the LP/commercial 45 version on Have A Nice Day:

Segment 1
281 beats long, begin counting on first downbeat, ends on a snare
Extends from 0:00.0 to 2:15.1 of the LP/commercial 45 version and promo 45 edit

Remove the 64 beats from 2:15.1 to 2:44.8 of the LP/commercial 45 version.

Segment 2
81 beats long, begins on a snare, ends on a downbeat
Extends from 2:44.8 to 3:23.2 of the LP/commercial 45 version
Extends from 2:15.1 to 2:53.4 of the promo 45 edit

Remove the 32 beats from 3:23.2 to 3:38.4 of the LP/commercial 45 version.

Segment 3
Begins on downbeat
Extends from 3:38.4 to 4:27.3 (end) of the LP/commercial 45 version
Extends from 2:53.4 to 3:42.3 (end) of the promo 45 edit

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