Santana - "Evil Ways"

The stereo promo 45 runs 2:58 even though the label says
2:35. And the Greatest Hits LP version also has
centered vocals.

GM

Edited by Gary Mack

Here are my timing results:

stock 45
Pitman pressing. "ZSP 152121-2E"
Terre Haute pressing. "ZSP 152121-2C"

Both have a listed time of (2:35) and actual time of (2:58)


mono/stereo DJ 45
Terre Haute pressing. Listed times on both sides are (3:01)

mono: "ZSP 152121-2C" actual time (2:58)
stereo: "ZSS 152122-2C STEREO" actual time (2:59)

(My vinyl Santana's Greatest Hits LP is the quad version; actual time of (4:02) with the unique cold ending mentioned in an earlier thread.)

Hykker wrote: Don't know what plant pressed my promo, but it has the 2:35 listed time (actual 2:58) both mono & stereo.

I actually did a double-take when I saw 3:01 listed on the label. Didn't all the record companies have some unwritten "mulligan" rule whereby anything that fell within three or four days of the three-minute-mark automatically got a listed time of 2:59? :)

How odd that Columbia would have actually exceeded that sacred three-minute listed limit when the track itself falls two or three seconds short.

Odder still is the very idea that ANY DJ 45 would have a listed time of 3:01!

Thanks to Andy for sending me the correct 45 mix of this.
I had not heard it in many years back when I had the
vinyl Greatest Hits. I thought I'd remembered hearing it
with all the vocals in the center.
After carefully comparing the single to the LP mix, I
feel the CDs in the database labeled as "45 version"
should be updated to "edit of LP version in an
unsuccessful attempt to re-create the 45 version"...or
something like that. I think the mix differences are
enough for this designation.

The 45 has reverb on the vocals that is not present in
the LP mix. All of the percussion is mixed differently,
but the one element that is easy to hear is the cowbell -
it is mixed to the center in the 45 and turned up louder.
There are more small mix differences, too many to list.

I also tried folding the edited LP mix to mono, and while
it's a good wide stereo mix for the LP, in mono it does
not work well (everything sounds distant) and it sounds
nothing like the 45.

MM