"Gypsy" - Fleetwood Mac

crapfromthepast wrote: I don't know what source TM Century used after the 3:11.5 point in the song, but it's pretty seamless to my ears. I don't hear an edit, or a change in sound quality, or an increase in hiss, or anything. It's pretty pristine, except for the misplaced edit.

A few years after this thread was started, I went back and listened to the TM edit again. I was able to hear where the source changed, as there was a slight (but barely noticeable) change in EQ. I tinkered with the EQ on their copy, and that is what you have, Ron.

I just rechecked TM's edit against the 45, and I see what you mean about their goof. This was simply an error when they spliced in the vinyl 45. I have corrected the edit, and it now matches the 45 exactly.

Edited by aaronk

Hi, I'm new to the forum. Is the video mix of "Gypsy" from the deluxe Mirage the same mix as the 45. If so, I think you can get the 45 version with two edits of the video version. One at 3:08 and the other at 3:28.

I just compared the LP version, single version (dubbed from my 45), and the Video Version from the expanded reissue. All are the same mix. (By contrast, the even-longer Alternate Unedited Version from "25 Years: The Chain" is a slightly different mix.)

If you want to use the Video Version to create the 45 version, simply remove 3:08 to 3:37 with your edit just before the word "comes" in both places. Also remove 3:54 to 4:23 on the snare hit.

Having done this, I can tell the Video Version uses a noticeably higher generation tape, and there are some minor dropouts. The Video Version also fades a few seconds earlier than the 45. For me, I had a much better and more closely matched result inserting a short section of my 45 dub. Switching between the LP version on CD and Video Version is obvious to my ears, but it's pretty seamless when going from the CD LP version to my 45.

There have always been some glaring disparities between
Billboard (sales + airplay) versus R&R (airplay only) Pop
charts. "Gypsy" is one of those topping the R&R chart, but
not even reaching the Billboard Top 10 peaking at # 12.
For this song, why was there such a difference? "Gypsy" is
still a presence on radio 40 years later. You would think
its radio success would have translated to much better
sales for the song back during its chart run in 1982.

AndrewChouffi wrote: TM Century certainly on occasion dubs from clean vinyl. TM Century (and certain powerful radio stations) had access to select reel-to-reel "dub of masters" in the 80s. That was a period in time (pre-CD) when some radio stations were concerned about sound quality and getting annoyed with scratchy vinyl sound on-the-air. Andy

They did not have master tape dubs. They dubbed LP discs
and declicked them via editing tape, then by using CEDAR.
Rarely did a radio station get a master dub, only in very
special situations and if they had major pull with a
record label.