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Ringmaster_D ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 08 July 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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Thanks Andy. That would make sense.
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Bill Cahill ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 27 June 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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I think the hand claps were added AFTER the "exclusive" rights to the Red Bird masters (including the Shangra-las masters which had already been sold to Mercury) were sold by George Goldner to a couple of labels including Musicor. An off key piano was added to "People Say" by the Dixie Cups too, these additional instruments and hand claps might have been added by Musicor. I don't believe there was a hand claps version released on Red Bird on the Jelly Beans track, but I could be wrong.
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edtop40 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6 |
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frank was kind enough to send me two stereo files without
the hand-clap overdubs and after comparing them to my vinyl 45 they are the same, kind of.....first, you'll need to edit off the first 1.4 seconds of the intro and start to song on the downbeat after the intro....then you'll need to fade for 0:14 from 2:29 to 2:43.....the actual vinyl 45 runs 2:43 even though the label says 2:40...this 45 run time info s/b added to the db.....if anyone needs a copy of my re-creation, please send me an email or pm....THANKS, FRANK Edited by edtop40 |
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musicmanatl ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 22 June 2011 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Always happy to help, Ed. And my question to you is answered here already. :)
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Paul C ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 23 October 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 10 |
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I note that the info supplied by Ed in 2014 is not
indicated in the database. If I may elaborate, the only CD with a stereo version I have is Taragon's Very Best Of Red Bird/Blue Cat Records. This version starts with the group's male member, Charles Thomas, singing "Poom-poom, poom-poom, poom-poom". (The music starts during the final 'poom'). The first two 'Poom- poom's are not on the 45, on which there is only the final 'Poom-poom'. Edited by Paul C |
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Brian W. ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 17 |
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So the database lists this song as (E) on the Collectables CD "Jelly Beans and Friends," and it does NOT specify that it has handclaps. Is it the "no handclaps" version on that CD?
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LunarLaugh ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 February 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11 |
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(E) would presumably be an re-channeled mono mix so if it was created from the mono mix, then it should contain the handclaps.
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Brian W. ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 17 |
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Not necessarily, because, as was discussed earlier in the thread, the original mono single mix did not have the handclaps. Edited by Brian W. |
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Brian W. ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 17 |
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I found a listing of that CD on Archive.org with sound samples, and the handclaps are there. Sounds like the database needs to be updated to indicate that the CD "Jelly Beans and Friends" has the handclaps. Also found on Archive.org: a dub of the 1965 mono LP "Red Bird Goldies," issued on the Red Bird label, which contains the mono version with handclaps: Red Bird Goldies (Mono LP) So the handclaps were not added after the 1966 sale of Red Bird Records, as someone speculated, they were added within a year after the release of the single. But there are four different original 45 dubs on YouTube, and they all play the "no handclaps" version. Edited by Brian W. |
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AndrewChouffi ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 24 September 2005 Status: Offline Points: 19 |
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Wow! And all this time I thought the handclaps were added by the 'Insence & Oldies' compiler in 1968 to make it seem stereo. The handclaps on the 1965 mono Red Bird comp seem the same... Andy |
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