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Thanks Andy. That would make sense.
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I think the hand claps were added AFTER the "exclusive" rights to the Red Bird masters (including the Shangra-las masters which had already been sold to Mercury) were sold by George Goldner to a couple of labels including Musicor. An off key piano was added to "People Say" by the Dixie Cups too, these additional instruments and hand claps might have been added by Musicor. I don't believe there was a hand claps version released on Red Bird on the Jelly Beans track, but I could be wrong.
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frank was kind enough to send me two stereo files without
the hand-clap overdubs and after comparing them to my
vinyl 45 they are the same, kind of.....first, you'll need
to edit off the first 1.4 seconds of the intro and start
to song on the downbeat after the intro....then you'll
need to fade for 0:14 from 2:29 to 2:43.....the actual
vinyl 45 runs 2:43 even though the label says 2:40...this
45 run time info s/b added to the db.....if anyone needs a
copy of my re-creation, please send me an email or
pm....THANKS, FRANK

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Always happy to help, Ed. And my question to you is answered here already. :)
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I note that the info supplied by Ed in 2014 is not
indicated in the database. If I may elaborate, the only
CD with a stereo version I have is Taragon's Very
Best Of Red Bird/Blue Cat Records
. This version
starts with the group's male member, Charles Thomas,
singing "Poom-poom, poom-poom, poom-poom". (The music
starts during the final 'poom'). The first two 'Poom-
poom's are not on the 45, on which there is only the
final 'Poom-poom'.

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So the database lists this song as (E) on the Collectables CD "Jelly Beans and Friends," and it does NOT specify that it has handclaps. Is it the "no handclaps" version on that CD?
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(E) would presumably be an re-channeled mono mix so if it was created from the mono mix, then it should contain the handclaps.
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Originally posted by LunarLaugh LunarLaugh wrote:

(E) would presumably be an re-channeled mono mix so if it was created from the mono mix, then it should contain the handclaps.


Not necessarily, because, as was discussed earlier in the thread, the original mono single mix did not have the handclaps.

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Originally posted by Brian W. Brian W. wrote:

Originally posted by LunarLaugh LunarLaugh wrote:

(E) would presumably be an re-channeled mono mix so if it was created from the mono mix, then it should contain the handclaps.


Not necessarily, because, as was discussed earlier in the thread, the original mono single mix did not have the handclaps.


I found a listing of that CD on Archive.org with sound samples, and the handclaps are there. Sounds like the database needs to be updated to indicate that the CD "Jelly Beans and Friends" has the handclaps.

Also found on Archive.org: a dub of the 1965 mono LP "Red Bird Goldies," issued on the Red Bird label, which contains the mono version with handclaps:

Red Bird Goldies (Mono LP)

So the handclaps were not added after the 1966 sale of Red Bird Records, as someone speculated, they were added within a year after the release of the single. But there are four different original 45 dubs on YouTube, and they all play the "no
handclaps" version.

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Originally posted by Brian W. Brian W. wrote:


Also found on Archive.org: a dub of the 1965 mono LP "Red
Bird Goldies," issued on the Red Bird label, which
contains the mono version with handclaps:


Wow! And all this time I thought the handclaps were
added by the 'Insence & Oldies' compiler in 1968 to make
it seem stereo.

The handclaps on the 1965 mono Red Bird comp seem the
same...

Andy
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