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Jose Feliciano Feliz Navidad - 45 stereo? |
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Brian W. ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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Okay, gang, I'm trying to find out whether the 1970 45 of Feliz Navidad (which was RCA 74-0404, not the later pressing with a different catalog number) was mono or stereo. I believe the B-side was "The Little Drummer Boy." I'm not seeing ANY copies online that are not promos, and apparently some of the import versions had the same catalog number, so it's hard to tell.
But it did chart in Cash Box at #71 in 1970, so I know it must have been a commercial single in the US. If anyone owns that original 45, maybe they can chime in here. |
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 92 |
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Here's a picture of one that clearly says "STEREO" on the label: http://www.classic45s.com/product_info.php?products_id=28206 &cPath=
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Yah Shure ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 11 December 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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The record in that link appears to be legit, although the sleeve is not a correct match (more on that below.) I don't have an original 1970 U.S. stock copy, but there's no reason to believe it would have been in anything other than stereo, as was its corresponding DJ 45.
Even if RCA 74-0404 did manage to remain in print beyond its initial 1970 appearance, its RCA factory sleeve would have differed in subsequent years. The 1970 "Feliz"/"Little Drummer Boy" DJ 45 came in this factory sleeve. By the following Christmas ('71) the RCA factory sleeve had already changed to the white-based multicolor cartoon design with the clouds, flowers and rainbow. The sleeve shown in the link Aaron posted above is not correct for any 74-0404 issue, as that design did not appear until April-May of 1974. "Feliz Navidad" and its original B-side had already been reissued on the red label RCA Gold Standard series by Christmas of '73. |
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Brian W. ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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Here's a mono promo: Feliz Navidad mono promo It's possible the factory sleeve is not original. Edited by Brian W. |
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Brian W. ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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Aha. First photo I've seen of a 1970 commercial pressing. (And it must be rare, because the owner of the site has a note that in eight years that's the first copy he's come across.) The catalog number referenced in the ad is for the reissue, but the label number in the photo is the original isue number. (It also says it's out of stock.) |
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Yah Shure ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 11 December 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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It's more likely that the mono DJ 45 was a 1971 reservice, retaining the original catalog number. Someone had referenced this as a "1971" issue on Discogs, but did not provide any label scans: discogs.com/Jose-Feliciano-Feliz-Navidad/release/3751015. I can confirm that my 1970 DJ 45 is in stereo. The scarcity of 74-0404 stock copies is a pretty good indication that Billboard's non-charting status is an accurate reflection of the single's lack of significant sales in 1970. Seems strange, considering the amount of airplay it received at the time (at least in the Twin Cities.) Was RCA content to let the single's airplay drive sales of the Jose Feliciano LP at the expense of the 45? Was there a pressing plant strike which may have affected stock 45 availability? Questions, questions... |
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AndrewChouffi ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 24 September 2005 Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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To Yah Shure:
Oftentimes Billboard didn't chart Christmas releases on their Hot 100; sometimes they did. I've never been able to completely figure that out. It would sometimes depend on if there was a contemporaneous Christmas chart, other times it would depend on the current Chart Manager. Sometimes it would depend on if the record label really wanted it to be the 'current single'. For example Eagles "Please Come Home For Christmas" charted on the Hot 100 while Elton John's "Step Into Christmas" didn't. Does anyone else have any insight or conjecture? Andy Edited by AndrewChouffi |
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Yah Shure ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 11 December 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Andy, I was specifically referring to "Feliz Navidad," which failed to show up on any of Billboard's various singles or Christmas singles charts in 1970.
As for the publication's seemingly endless flip-flopping rationale regarding where to place Christmas singles over the years, Billboard managed to demonstrate that it was, indeed, possible to outwishy-washy even Charlie Brown. |
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Brian W. ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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Yes, it's very odd that it didn't show up on any Billboard chart in 1970, since it did manage a low placement in Cash Box. However, that #71 position was only for one week, then it completely dropped off the charts.
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MMathews ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I'm sure one of the Billboard / Whitburn experts can
chime in here- but i recall having a listing, compiled by Whitburn, of the Chistmas singles charts, starting from early 60's thru the early 70's, when they finally discontinued it. These were given to me as photocopies by a friend, i wish i still had them. I saw so many classic hits on it like "Merry Christmas Darling" and such, which explained to me why so many were missing from the Hot 100 in those years. For "Feliz Navidad" it seems this one became a "sleeper hit" .. i started hearing it more and more in the late- 70's - early 80's. MM |
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