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    Posted: 22 November 2005 at 11:37pm
In my most recent e-mail conversation with Ed, he reported the following concerning Kim Wilde's two Top 40 hits:

1) The 45 length of "Kids in America" is 3:21, while the LP length is 3:26.

2) The commercial 45 of "You Keep Me Hangin' On" runs 4:14, same as the LP. Ed says he has a CD where the song runs 4:09 due to the pitch being too fast. Pat, you might want to check the other CDs where "You Keep Me Hangin' On" runs 4:09-4:10 because the song may not run at the correct 45 or LP speed on those discs either.

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This is an interesting situation as my dj 45 runs 4:10 and is slightly sped up over the LP counterpart. It also fades :03 sooner than the LP version.
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That is interesting, Pat. I wonder if the record label intentionally sped up the song for Top 40 radio airplay?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote edtop40 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 October 2006 at 9:54pm
my 45 is clearly quicker than the cd version from "rock of the 80's vol 9".....by about 0:04 or so......a promo sampler i have contains the correct 4:10 45 version....
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I'm confused here guys. Todd initially reported the commercial 45 running time of "You Keep Me Hangin' On" as (4:14), the same as the LP and now Ed reports the commercial 45 running time as (4:10) so which is the correct commercial 45 running time?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Todd Ireland Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 January 2009 at 12:47pm
Pat:

I know you asked your question over two years ago, but I now have an actual commercial vinyl 45 dub of Kim Wilde's "You Keep Me Hangin' On" and I come up with a run time of 4:10 just like you did, Pat. I'm not sure if the 4:14 time posted in my initial thread was a typo or a misunderstanding, but it looks like all three of us now agree that the actual run time is 4:10.

So it looks like we can now conclude that the commercial and DJ 45 runs at a faster pitch than the LP (the latter does run 4:14).

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For what it's worth, here are the BPMs (tempos) of the various versions of "You Keep Me Hangin' On" that I have:

The most common tempo is 123.4 BPM:
  • Now 1986 (UK release, 1993; early fade)
  • Awesome '80s (Razor & Tie, mastered by Steve Hoffman and the best-sounding version I've heard)
  • Modern Rock - Dance (Time-Life)
  • Sounds Of The Eighties - 1987 (Time-Life)
  • The A-List
  • Billboard Top Hits - 1987
  • Rock Dreams (Time-Life)
There's a version on the hard-to-find UK CD Now 8 that runs a teeny bit slower at 123.3 BPM.

There's a version that runs a tiny bit faster at 123.6 BPM on Rockin' USA.

There are two CDs that feature a still faster version at 123.9 BPM:
  • Rock The First Vol. 6 (also mastered by Steve Hoffman)
  • Rock On - 1987
And finally, there's a version that runs significantly slower at 121.8 BPM on Rock Of The '80s Vol. 9. This is 1.3% slower than the 123.4 BPM versions listed above, and I think this should be considered to be running abnormally slow. You can hear that this one drags a bit; differences among the others aren't all that noticeable.


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after another, more closer review of the song "kids in america", i've concluded that the 45 actually runs 3:25 and NOT 3:21 as my original assesment states.....this should be updated in the db....
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The database doesn't distinguish the different versions of "You Keep Me Hangin' On"

What version appears on the Time Life Sounds of The 80s - 1987?

Of the CDs listed in the database, which contain the correct 45 version?

Thanks all.

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There is no "version" difference between the 45 and LP - just a speed difference (45 length = (4:10), LP length = (4:14))
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