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Revisiting "You Keep Me Hangin' On"...

My 45 (MCA 53024, 1986) has a printed time of 4:13 and an actual run time of 4:10. It has a very minor tempo drift from beginning (123.8 BPM) to end (123.9 BPM). Don't have the Another Step album to compare tempos or fade points.

Most of the 14 versions I have on CD are pretty close to the 45, but there are some goofs I'll point out so you can avoid them.

Priority's Rock Of The '80s Vol. 9 (1993) runs about 1.6% too slow, at 121.8 BPM. It's not the only track that runs abnormally slow on this series - "Pop Goes The World" on Vol. 11 is also too slow. Avoid.

The UK 2-CD set Now 1986 (1993) fades early by about 10 seconds. (Unless that's how the UK 45 runs...) Avoid.

The promo 50-CD set from swaitek called The A-List uses noise reduction on this track. Avoid.

The Time-Life 2-CD set Rock Dreams (1993) is missing the first 0.25 seconds of the intro. Surprisingly, so is Razor & Tie's 2-CD Awesome '80s (1994), which is mastered by Steve Hoffman and has a stellar reputation, but sounds nearly identical to Rock Dreams, including the intro glitch. Avoid.

There are a few discs that use the same digital source as Rock Dreams, but have the intro intact, including MCA's single-disc Greatest Rock Hits Of The '80s (1996; 1.9 dB quieter than Rock Dreams) and Time-Life's 2-CD Modern Rock Vol. 5 Dance (1999; 0.4 dB quieter than Rock Dreams). Both run 123.4 BPM throughout, both run about 4:14, and both sound very nice. I'd bet these are based on the mastering for Another Step, but I can't confirm that.

The most accurate representation of the 45 is probably on Sandstone's Rock The First Vol. 6 (1992), which runs at 123.9 BPM throughout and runs about 4:11. There is a digital clone that exactly 1.7 dB louder on Madacy's Rock On 1987 (1996), but it's too loud and clips a bit.

Bill Inglot did a new analog transfer for Rhino's Billboard Top Hits 1987 (1994), which sounds nice but is a little loud and clips a bit. It runs 123.4 BPM throughout and runs 4:14. There is a digital clone of the Billboard disc on Time-Life's Sounds Of The Eighties Vol. 9 1987 (1995; a little added compression - avoid).

And there are other versions that don't seem to be based on any of the above analog transfers, including UK's Now 8 (1986, EQ'd with too much high end and sounds too bright, runs 123.3 BPM and 4:10), the promo 4-CD MCA Hits Sampler Vol. 1 (1988, runs 124.0 BPM and 4:11 with truncated fade), and Warner Special Products'2-CD Rockin' USA (1994, runs 123.6 BPM and4:10). These all sound OK.

I should point out that in most of these cases, the length difference is due to where the fade ends, not due to significant pitch/tempo differences.

Overall, if I had to choose based on sound quality, I'd pick the Billboard disc, even though it clips a little. The EQ is a little bright for some tastes, but I like it. If you're looking for a version as faithful as possible to the 45, choose Rock The First.

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Anybody have a CLEAN copy of "Kids In America?" I got a copy of a greatest hits CD and was shocked to hear what sounded like analog overload distortion when the drums kick in through the rest of the song.

I went back to my original file (ripped from one of my compilation CDs, I'm sure) and found IT sounded distorted past 26 seconds into the song.

Anybody have a recommended source for this song, or was the master tape of this recording just overloaded (unintentionally or for effect)?

(Curiously, the drums seem to be the main source of analog distortion more than the rest of the band or the voice, although at times Kim's voice seems to get a little bit of the analog IM distortion going, too... not like the drums, which makes me wonder if the problem was in the master tracks, pre-mixdown. Anybody know?)
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