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I've now updated the list to reflect that commercial 45 copies of Three Dog Night's "Let Me Serenade You" are in electronically rechanneled stereo. If anyone knows of other electronically rechanneled stereo 45s not accounted for in previous yearly mono/stereo lists, please bring them to my attention.
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Originally posted by Todd Ireland Todd Ireland wrote:


If anyone knows of other electronically rechanneled stereo 45s not accounted for in previous yearly mono/stereo lists, please bring them to my attention.


What about this one:
Raspberries - "I Wanna Be with You" (stereo)

If this one's stereo, it's extremely narrow. Comparing the mono & stereo sides of my promo the only difference I hear is a bit of "spacial" reverb.
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To Hykker:

"I Wanna Be With You" IS stereo!

As Jim so accurately & eloquently tagged it, it's 'Jimmy-Ienner-distortion' stereo!!

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It's funny - when Yah Shure mentioned "Jimmy-Ienner-distortion" stereo, the first thing I thought of was "I Wanna Be With You". But it's the ONLY thing I thought of, as the other Raspberries singles have much better separation. Were there any other Ienner productions whose stereo was as narrow as "Go All the Way"?
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Originally posted by AndrewChouffi AndrewChouffi wrote:

"I Wanna Be With You" IS stereo!

As Jim so accurately & eloquently tagged it, it's 'Jimmy-Ienner-distortion' stereo!!



By "Jimmy-Ienner-distortion stereo" do you mean different compression parameters on left & right channels (as was discussed in the "Go All The Way" thread? If so, how does that differ from being just another form of (E)?
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I started buying 45s in summer '72, and I'm surprised to see how many '72-'74 45s I owned that were in mono, and I never noticed at the time. I had a stereo record player. Granted the speakers were attached and were only 2 feet apart from each other, but I just never noticed a difference when I was playing mono 45s!
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It's amazing to me how it took the music industry over 6 years [1968-1975] to go from nearly-all-mono-45s to nearly-all-stereo-45s (with 1975 being very close to 100%, I presume.) You'd think the music industry would be really fast paced.

Then again, how many years did it take the music industry to switch from all-vinyl albums to you-can-buy-any-album-you-want-on-CD (and I'm referring to top 200 albums, not necessarily independent albums). Was it 1983 when people could start buying some of their favorite current albums on domestic CDs? And what was the last year that you had to be forced to buy an album on vinyl because the label chose not to release it on CD? My last album like that was a late-1986 Stacy Lattisaw album - it didn't come out on CD until 2011. But I'm guessing the LAST year a fan had to sometimes be forced to buy an album on vinyl (because the label refused to release it on CD) was 1989 or 1990 - which would also be about a 7-year span. Anyone have a more accurate estimate of this?

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To Hykker:

In "I Wanna Be with You''s case I do believe it really IS true stereo; I truly do hear some instrument as well as backup vocal separation (especially when widened).

I am one of the few that actually think "Go All The Way" is 'legally' true stereo as my ears hear it being mixed on a stereo board with most of the potentiometers going damn near straight-up-the-middle (but individual reverb returns being somewhat panned). I do not believe it was mixed to full-track mono, then cleverly rechanneled.

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The Raspberries Capitol material is true Stereo, albeit of the narrow variety. It was part of their retro rock sound.
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Originally posted by AndrewChouffi AndrewChouffi wrote:

I am one of the few that actually think "Go All The Way" is 'legally' true stereo as my ears hear it being mixed on a stereo board with most of the potentiometers going damn near straight-up-the-middle (but individual reverb returns being somewhat panned). I do not believe it was mixed to full-track mono, then cleverly rechanneled.


Go All The Way most definitely the narrowest stereo possible... if you widen the stereo field, the vocals during the intro to the song show up only in the right channel...and you can hear the intro in widened stereo here:

http://www.divshare.com/download/16787033-9e3
Live in stereo.
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